Jim, Thanks for your helpfulness; I'll try and give you some more data so that maybe we can get to the bottom of this.
> o Version of LTSP. I'm using standard LTSP-4.0, not k12ltsp. K12LTSP 4.0.1 > o Version of the kernel. I'm using 2.4.24-ltsp-1. I think it's also 2.4.24-ltsp-1; here's my /tftpboot/lts drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 ene 20 11:41 boot drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 jul 12 09:35 pxe lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 jul 12 09:34 vmlinuz-2.4.18-ltsp -> vmlinuz.ltsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 jul 12 09:34 vmlinuz-2.4.18-ltsp-1 -> vmlinuz.ltsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 jul 12 09:34 vmlinuz-2.4.18-ltsp-lpp -> vmlinuz.ltsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 jul 12 09:34 vmlinuz-2.4.18-ltsp-lpp-1 -> vmlinuz.ltsp -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1841152 feb 4 00:47 vmlinuz-2.4.24-ltsp-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1863168 ene 20 2002 vmlinuz-2.4.9-1-kitchen-sink.img lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 jul 12 09:34 vmlinuz.ltsp -> vmlinuz-2.4.24-ltsp-1 > o NFS-Swap. It's off for my customers. > o Xserver. I'm using setting XSERVER = auto ditto > o Window mgr/Desktop environment. I'm running Icewm. Default is Gnome but some users use KDE. > o Applications. Mozilla and Xterm. Wow, we regularly use more apps than I can count. Basically anything that comes with K12LTSP; games and educational programs are common, Open Office, GIMP, Mozilla Firebird 0.6 (spanish language build), etc. etc. > Jeff, > > I've got a setup of 26 Jammin-125's, using LTSP-4.0, and the > customer hasn't reported any crashing at all. > > I figured that no news was good news, but I decided > to call them, and ask specifically how they are doing, > and there have been NO client crashes. > > The kernel they are using is vmlinuz-2.4.24-ltsp-1. > > They are NOT using NFS Swap. > > Their system is RHEL 3.0 with standard LTSP-4 added on. > > I feel like the oddball here, because lots of others are having > problems that i'm just not seeing with my customers. > > The users are running Icewm, Mozilla and Xterm. Not much else. > > So, I know that it is at least possible to to have a stable > environment with LTSP-4 and Jammin-125's. > > Now, the question is, what's the difference between what you (and > others) are doing, and what my customers are doing. > > Usually, when faced with a problem like this, I like to collect > data. 99% of the time, if you collect enough data, the patterns > will emerge, and the cause will become obvious. Then, once we > know the cause, coming up with a solution becomes much easier. > > Here's the things I think we should look at: > > o Version of LTSP. I'm using standard LTSP-4.0, not k12ltsp. > o Version of the kernel. I'm using 2.4.24-ltsp-1. > o NFS-Swap. It's off for my customers. > o Xserver. I'm using setting XSERVER = auto > o Window mgr/Desktop environment. I'm running Icewm. > o Applications. Mozilla and Xterm. > > Also, can you describe the failure ? > > Is the machine locking up? > Is the Xserver just crashing, and going back to the login > prompt ? > > If it's the latter, i'd suspect an Xserver problem. In which case, > it might be good to try LTSP-4.1, which uses Xorg, rather than > XFree86. > > If you and others can get back to me, with information about your > setup, as it compares with mine, maybe we can start to get to the bottom > of this. > > Thanks, > > Jim McQuillan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004, Jeff Nelson wrote: > > > I keep having lots of crashes, too. Funny enough, it only happens on my thin > > clients (Jammin 125's), not several stations that actually boot their own > > Linux and simply query the X server, which makes me think it might be > > something in the LTSP kernel. > > > > I enabled NFS swap, and that helped for a while, and I also changed the gdm > > ping timeout, which seemed to make a bit of a difference, but nothing has made > > the problem go away. > > > > These constant crashes have been the situation for over six months. I tried > > checking whether it was RAM leakage by telnetting to the client, but never > > came up with anything at all. > > > > K12LTSP 4.0.1 (Fedora Core 1, LTSP 4.0) > > Athlon XP 3000 > > 2 GB DDR, 512MB swap (almost never uses much swap) > > 9 workstations (incl 6 Jammin 125's) > > 2 60GB drives (but no RAID) > > DFI Lanparty KT400A motherboard > > 10/100 3Com switch > > > > Jeff Nelson > > > > > > > I know this has been discussed before, but I'm not sure there was > > > any resolution. I've had a workstation crash again recently. > > > > > > Is there anyone that does NOT have this problem? > > > > > > What is different with those that do have this problem and those who > > > do not? > > > > > > me: > > > LTSP 3.0 > > > RH 9 > > > Athlon XP 1700 > > > 1GB DDR, 1GB swap > > > Via mobo > > > Raid 1 IDE > > > 10 workstations, 32MB+ RAM > > > 100Mbps switched > > > 4 workstations attached via ~10Mbps (remote) > > > NFS swap = N (one ws = Y) > > > > > > c > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. > > > Attend Black Hat Briefings & Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - > > > digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, > > > unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com > > > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > Ltsp-discuss mailing list. 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