Guys, this has already been solved. If you feel that your post has little to do with the charter of this list, please add "OT" to your subject, so folk know it's off-topic and instruct their mailers to do what they feel is best to said post.
This debate appears on this list more often than not, and honestly, is starting to get long-in-the-tooth. Suggest we return to regular programming. Mark.
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