My HTC desire came free with a 2 year contract courtesy of Virgin (Thanks Mr Branson) :-)
On 29 July 2011 14:13, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with daniel. The top of the line android phones are comparable to > iphones and in some cases are better than iphones hardware wise. Those dual > core tegras really scream with power and ofcourse top of the line android > phones also have graphics comparable to iphone retina display or better. > > But unfortunately here in the states getting a top of the line android phone > is always more expensive than getting an iphone. When verison releases their > newest androids they always cost betweent $199 and $299 with a 2 year > contract. Iphone always costs $199 with a new 2 year contract > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Okalany Daniel > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Most issues I experience with android, are with the hardware itself. >> Really >> wish I could buy an iPhone and install android on it. The key annoyances, >> are: >> - I need to know what speed my processor is and other hardware, so when >> Need >> for speed plays sluggish, I'm like "Oh, I wish I had a droid with a tegra >> graphics card" (this is after I've downloaded and installed the game from >> the android market. >> - Internal storage, some mid-range Androids come with internal storage as >> little as 180Mb, I think this includes space for the OS itself. This is a >> recipe for things like incoming message rejected, you have no space. Even >> if >> your 8Gb memory card is empty. >> >> So it's not a surprise that iPhones have better user experience, because >> all >> iPhones usually have the *best* hardware at the time of release. >> >> So depending on the android (I haven't used anything like the Motorola >> Atrix), I think top level android offers a similar (Probably better) >> Experience than a similar iPhone. >> >> Daniel. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of >> Paul Bagyenda >> Sent: 29 July 2011 03:02 PM >> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> Subject: Re: [LUG] [OT] Android dirty little secret: Shipping #s strong, >> returns 30 - 40% >> >> And yet overall the IOS user experience is, in my limited experience, >> better. This guy provides some additional insight: >> http://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2008/11/six-million-dollar-libc.html >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 07:33, Tim Schofield wrote: >> >> > They didn't develop it from scratch, its derived from the BSD C >> > library. It has a much smaller footprint than the gnu library, and is >> > designed for cpu's that run at slower speeds, making it much better >> > for mobile devices than the GNU library that ios uses. >> > >> > >> > On 29 July 2011 12:27, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am duly educated again, for which I am grateful! Still, developing >> their own libc must surely have had to do with licensing? >> >> >> >> Since I do not own an iPhone or iPad I suppose I may escape the "fan >> >> boy" >> tag. Computers have to work well. And I suppose after a while one stops >> caring about the wars... >> >> >> >> On the server side, Linux forever. On the PC/laptop side, SJ wins >> >> (though >> I've seen Ubuntu installs lately that look and work pretty well). Android >> vs >> iPhone, the latter seems to me slightly ahead, but then the speed at which >> Android has improved is truly impressive. >> >> >> >> A Linux use since kernel version 0.9! >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 06:48, Tim Schofield wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes but bionic libc is open source, which is not really lock down is >> >>> it? >> >>> >> >>> What have all you apple fan boys got against Linux?? >> >>> >> >>> Come over to open source guys, once you've tried it you will never >> >>> want to go back :-) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 29 July 2011 11:42, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> I had doubted you re GNU libc not being included in Android. But it >> >>>> appears you are right: http://thoth.eng.temple.edu/?p=139 >> >>>> That is a lot of work to do to avoid publishing the source code! Even >> famous-for-lock-down Apple includes GNU libc. >> >>>> >> >>>> P. >> >>>> >> >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 01:59, Dan Carpenter wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Android only uses the Linux kernel. They threw out everything >> >>>>> else about linux, like the gnu C library and every linux program. >> >>>>> They wrote their own replacements for that which are licensed >> >>>>> under the Apache license. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Apache license doesn't require people to pass along the >> >>>>> software. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The most recent version of Android, Honeycomb, was announced in >> >>>>> May this year. It's not used on phones, only on tablets. Google >> >>>>> is not going to release the source for it. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Google is going to release the source for the next version "Ice >> >>>>> Cream Sandwich" which merges the phone and the tablet software. >> >>>>> It's going to be released later this year. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> But for all the Android products, they do have to share the kernel >> >>>>> sourse. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> regards, >> >>>>> dan carpenter >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >>>>> [email protected] Mailing list archives: >> >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including attachments if any). 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