"Long supporter" is stretching it. Read archives. On Jul 29, 2011, at 08:18, Tim Schofield wrote:
> Well I haven't, and never would buy an apple device, so I can't say > which is faster. > > I have been a Free software advocate and user for many years, and > believe strongly in the principles of Free software. Where there is a > choice between a Free software option and a proprietary one, as in the > case of phones, I will always go for the Free software option. > > Somebody mentioned the speed at which android is improving, and this > is one of the great strengths of Free software. The only thing that > keeps people buying apples products is the superb marketing ability > they have. Somebody else mentioned that even though they couldn't make > phone calls from their phone except when held in a certain way, that > their phone was "super cool". This has been the main thrust of apples > marketing for nearly 30 years. "Owning an apple device makes you > cooler and sexier than owners of other devices". It works brilliantly > as shown by their profits. > > My biggest surprise was finding myself being the lone supporter of > Linux devices on a LUG mailing list. First time I have ever > experienced that. > > Tim > > > On 29 July 2011 13:01, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >> And yet overall the IOS user experience is, in my limited experience, >> better. This guy provides some additional insight: >> http://codingrelic.geekhold.com/2008/11/six-million-dollar-libc.html >> On Jul 29, 2011, at 07:33, Tim Schofield wrote: >> >>> They didn't develop it from scratch, its derived from the BSD C >>> library. It has a much smaller footprint than the gnu library, and is >>> designed for cpu's that run at slower speeds, making it much better >>> for mobile devices than the GNU library that ios uses. >>> >>> >>> On 29 July 2011 12:27, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I am duly educated again, for which I am grateful! Still, developing their >>>> own libc must surely have had to do with licensing? >>>> >>>> Since I do not own an iPhone or iPad I suppose I may escape the "fan boy" >>>> tag. Computers have to work well. And I suppose after a while one stops >>>> caring about the wars... >>>> >>>> On the server side, Linux forever. On the PC/laptop side, SJ wins (though >>>> I've seen Ubuntu installs lately that look and work pretty well). Android >>>> vs iPhone, the latter seems to me slightly ahead, but then the speed at >>>> which Android has improved is truly impressive. >>>> >>>> A Linux use since kernel version 0.9! >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 06:48, Tim Schofield wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes but bionic libc is open source, which is not really lock down is it? >>>>> >>>>> What have all you apple fan boys got against Linux?? >>>>> >>>>> Come over to open source guys, once you've tried it you will never >>>>> want to go back :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 July 2011 11:42, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I had doubted you re GNU libc not being included in Android. But it >>>>>> appears you are right: http://thoth.eng.temple.edu/?p=139 >>>>>> That is a lot of work to do to avoid publishing the source code! Even >>>>>> famous-for-lock-down Apple includes GNU libc. >>>>>> >>>>>> P. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 01:59, Dan Carpenter wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Android only uses the Linux kernel. They threw out everything else >>>>>>> about linux, like the gnu C library and every linux program. They >>>>>>> wrote their own replacements for that which are licensed under the >>>>>>> Apache license. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Apache license doesn't require people to pass along the software. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The most recent version of Android, Honeycomb, was announced in May >>>>>>> this year. It's not used on phones, only on tablets. Google is not >>>>>>> going to release the source for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Google is going to release the source for the next version "Ice >>>>>>> Cream Sandwich" which merges the phone and the tablet software. It's >>>>>>> going to be released later this year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But for all the Android products, they do have to share the kernel >>>>>>> sourse. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards, >>>>>>> dan carpenter >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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