I think you are the one who doesn't get it. We are saying simply: Your god is not our god, and need not be. Khalas. On Aug 01, 2011, at 10:40, Tim Schofield wrote:
> Whoever wrote that comment clearly hadn't bothered to understand any > of the concepts involved in what they were talking about. One thing > the FSF definitely don't worship is Open Source. > > http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html > > I got no further on the quote because anything else this person says > is not worth reading. > > On 1 August 2011 06:32, Paul Bagyenda <[email protected]> wrote: >> And I remembered a comment I read here: >> http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2010/04/29/jobs_on_flash/#c_752789 >> >> --- >> For most of the IT industry's relatively short life, programmers and nerds >> have been its High Priests, acting as gatekeepers and controlling every >> aspect of your access to their religion. >> The most blatant exponent of this religion is the Free Software Foundation, >> which was founded towards the end of the earliest phase of personal >> computing. This foundation worships the god known as "Open Source"—a god >> they didn't even invent. >> "Open Source" is a programmer-centric concept which is only of direct >> relevance to other programmers. In the early '80s, when the FSF began, most >> computer users could be assumed to be either programmers, or at least >> IT-literate. >> Today, 99% of computer users today *don't* know how to program, and a >> substantial majority would have trouble recognising the power switch, so a >> programmer-centric approach to IT is a lot less useful. The FSF has become >> the closest thing the programming community has to a union, including a >> strong protectionist stance against anything they see as a threat to the >> status of programmers within the IT industry. >> The FSF cannot survive in the world as seen by Apple. Apple's corporate >> philosophy doesn't see computers as a god-like gift to humanity which must >> be protected from the unclean masses. Instead, the *user* is placed on the >> pedestal. His needs *always* come first—even if it means writing >> applications for Apple's computers is made harder as a result. (For example, >> it's not uncommon for a major OS X release to break some old APIs to >> encourage the use of newer, more powerful APIs which offer a richer user >> experience. Microsoft would be lynched if they tried that.) ... >> --- >> >> >> On Aug 01, 2011, at 08:07, Victor van Reijswoud wrote: >> >>> Amen >>> >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> <sigh> >>>> http://www.fsf.org/working-together/ >>>> </sigh> >>>> >>>> On 31 July 2011 10:48, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> What freedom exactly are you missing from apples interpretation of the BSD >>>>> code. I see alot of folks yelling for 'freedom' but with the few areas >>>>> where >>>>> the freedom is granted they are not doing anything useful at all >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 4:17 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well there is a major difference between the way Apple uses the BSD >>>>>> licensed code and the way Google does. Apple have taken BSD licensed >>>>>> code, made changes and then released it as proprietary code, whereas >>>>>> Google has taken it, made changes and then released it as BSD licensed >>>>>> code. Apple have taken away our freedom while Google retains it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Having said this I am not a fan of permissive licensing. I would never >>>>>> contribute any code to a project that had such a license. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Tim >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31 July 2011 07:33, joachim Gwoke <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Schofield does mention use of BSD code and license on android. Now from >>>>>>> what we see apple has always taken this route and made a lot of money >>>>>>> from >>>>>>> it. Can the droid people do the same? Seems to me that extremely >>>>>>> permissive >>>>>>> licensing like that of the bsd people keeps them in the shadows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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