On a side note, the Internet does not always function like a traditional economic market (i.e. supply and demand). Users can freely produce truckloads of content with zero demand (e.g. LiveJournal). On Feb 25, 2013 4:54 PM, "Kiggundu Mukasa" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Agreed ...there is little local content… But there is so much more that > does not need to be local > For example, Mathematics web site games my son uses do not need a good > grasp on english just of maths. > > Local content will come with local demand…… its the chicken and the egg > scenario…. > If there are hundreds or thousands of Acholi surfing the net from Gulu and > Kitgum then people will put up content to address those users. > No one will put up content for users that do not exist. That is why there > are no websites in Phoenician but also why there are websites in Klingon > http://www.kli.org > > There is content he can browse now, (e.g. in the sciences), there will be > content coming as demand grows. > > Kiggundu > > > On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:27 PM, "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > But Kiggs, > > If you gave that boy a tablet in his local language, how many websites in > his local language would he be able to access? I think that's the question > here.... > > And I also don't agree with the whole "don't criticize" argument. We're > all free to have opinions on the useful/less-ness of this project. Having > participated in open source development of small and large projects, I > think such arguments/discussions are what help most open source projects > get rid of cruft as well as modules that no-one will ever maintain because > they were one person's love-child. > > P. > > -- > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given > credit. > > > On 25 February 2013 13:37, Kiggundu Mukasa <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> That is why Bukedde sells NO newspapers in Uganda let alone Rupini, Etop >> and the rest. >> >> Because literacy is Uganda is defined by English. >> >> If content is in local languages, the local language speakers will find >> it easier to understand and navigate. You do not need a Phd. to understand >> this. >> You just have to listen to this young man to understand what is the >> problem with teachers who do not speak english like the queen trying to >> teach english to the masses >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bX8gS0eXHU >> Notice the translation of the village boy into English … its not from >> French! >> >> If you gave that young man a tablet in English or in his language, which >> one do you think he will use easier? >> >> Kiggundu >> >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Joseph Abdi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dave, >> >> "does language localization of software and gadgets have any significant >> impact on the usage of Technology by users?" >> >> The answer is "NO". And that is because "Literacy in Uganda" is defined >> by "English". For as long as English is our primary and national language >> such translations are a Luxury! >> >> Joseph >> >> On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:30:36 +0300, okwii David <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Interesting discussion! >> >> I work as the Mozilla Uganda community reporter and so far the feedback >> with all it's controversy is very invaluable to the community. So thanks >> and please continue with the conversation. >> >> They're so other localization projects going on the latest being a Luganda >> phone >> <http://www.itnewsafrica.com/2013/02/orange-uganda-launches-luganda-language-system>by >> Orange uganda, a Linux OS in >> Luganda<http://www.techpost.ug/95/an-entire-operating-system-in-a-local-language/>, >> Firefox Luganda and even Google Uganda homepage in three local languages!! >> However, the question still lingers, "does language localization of >> software and gadgets have any significant impact on the usage of Technology >> by users?". Keep the conversation going. >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Victor van Reijswoud < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> What do you want to get straight? >>> >>> That the man is doing a marvellous job and that we are all happy that >>> he takes initiative to engage more people in order to try to bridge >>> the digital divide? >>> >>> Thanks for your support! >>> >>> V >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Can we get this straight? >>> > >>> > The “localisation of firefox” is the Insertion of a language file for >>> > Acholi. This means that you can translate all the standard >>> > menu items and labels OF THE BROWSER into acholi. This is a UX (User >>> > Experience) enhancement(?) and has nothing to do with >>> > source code or web content browsed. >>> > >>> > It further demonstrates how pluggable Firefox is. This is the >>> equivalent of >>> > installing a French dictionary to do spell check. >>> > >>> > A point one must consider is that by the time a user is conversant >>> enough to >>> > not only read acholi but to look for certain settings >>> > a features in acholi for their technical utility that user ALREADY >>> knows >>> > English. >>> > >>> > I wonder what the “delete cookies” option will look like in acholi. >>> What >>> > about the “privacy settings”? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf Of >>> > Geoffrey Agoi >>> > Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 09:12 >>> > >>> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] FireFox now in Acholi >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I see it as a business opportunity in itself. I believe its worthwile >>> > localising webcontents in the long run. There is a lot on advocacy for >>> > universal ACCESS but of what use if the content are of no value. >>> > >>> > >>> > Mob: +256 774 799056; +256 754 486 545 >>> > >>> > Alt. email: [email protected] >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ==================================================== >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ==================================================== >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Richard Obore <[email protected] >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > My name is Obore, so even though I wish to play devil's advocate for a >>> > moment, I hope it is understood that am not against the Acholi (my >>> > ancestors) or any local Ugandan tribe, or even translation... >>> > >>> > BUT: >>> > >>> > So, Firefox is in Acholi - now what? Are there any websites in Acholi? >>> > >>> > >>> > Is it worth it translating anything to Luganda, Runyankore, Lusoga, >>> etc? >>> > (besides sentimental value & proof of concept) >>> > >>> > I suspect that most Ugandans who have access to a browser plus internet >>> > connection speak English anyway, don't they? >>> > (OK, maybe not the Bukedde group, but all others i suppose) >>> > >>> > I have no facts to support what i claim - just anecdotal evidence. But >>> am >>> > open to your ideas. >>> > Whats your opinion? Are there any records about non-english literacy in >>> > Uganda? >>> > >>> > >>> > R. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Very cool :) >>> > >>> > On Feb 20, 2013 12:21 AM, "Mugabi Allan" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > This is incredible, focusing more on Local Content before reaching out >>> to >>> > the World. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________________________________ >>> > >>> > Mugabi Allan Kitaka | Google Student Ambassador Lead | Uganda Christian >>> > University | Uganda | +256785225384 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>> > >>> > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>> [email protected] >>> > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>> > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>> > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>> > >>> > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>> > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>> > >>> > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >>> > attachments if any). 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