Re: [LUG] FireFox now in Acholi

[Rocco Radisch]

http://www.acholitimes.com/ Rocco Disclaimer: This message contains confidential information and is solely intended for the designated addressee. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. On 25/02/2013 16:53, Kiggundu Mukasa wrote: Agreed ...there is little local content… But there is so much more that does not need to be local For example, Mathematics web site games my son uses do not need a good grasp on english just of maths. Local content will come with local demand…… its the chicken and the egg scenario…. If there are hundreds or thousands of Acholi surfing the net from Gulu and Kitgum then people will put up content to address those users. No one will put up content for users that do not exist.  That is why there are no websites in Phoenician but also why there are websites in Klingon http://www.kli.org There is content he can browse now, (e.g. in the sciences), there will be content coming as demand grows.  Kiggundu On Feb 25, 2013, at 2:27 PM, "Peter C. Ndikuwera" <pnd...@gmail.com> wrote: But Kiggs, If you gave that boy a tablet in his local language, how many websites in his local language would he be able to access? I think that's the question here.... And I also don't agree with the whole "don't criticize" argument. We're all free to have opinions on the useful/less-ness of this project. Having participated in open source development of small and large projects, I think such arguments/discussions are what help most open source projects get rid of cruft as well as modules that no-one will ever maintain because they were one person's love-child. P. -- Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given credit. On 25 February 2013 13:37, Kiggundu Mukasa <kiggu...@gmail.com> wrote: That is why Bukedde sells NO newspapers in Uganda let alone Rupini, Etop and the rest. Because literacy is Uganda is defined by English. If content is in local languages, the local language speakers will find it easier to understand and navigate. You do not need a Phd. to understand this. You just have to listen to this young man to understand what is the problem with teachers who do not speak english like the queen trying to teach english to the masses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bX8gS0eXHU Notice the translation of the village boy into English … its not from French! If you gave that young man a tablet in English or in his language, which one do you think he will use easier? Kiggundu On Feb 25, 2013, at 11:38 AM, Joseph Abdi <a...@jolis.net> wrote: Dave, "does language localization of software and gadgets have any significant impact on the usage of Technology by users?" The answer is "NO". And that is because "Literacy in Uganda" is defined by "English". For as long as English is our primary and national language such translations are a Luxury! Joseph On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 11:30:36 +0300, okwii David <oquid...@gmail.com> wrote: Interesting discussion!  I work as the Mozilla Uganda community reporter and so far the feedback with all it's controversy is very invaluable to the community. So thanks and please continue with the conversation.  They're so other localization projects going on  the latest being a Luganda phone by Orange uganda, a Linux OS in Luganda, Firefox Luganda and even Google Uganda homepage in three local languages!! However, the question still lingers, "does language localization of software and gadgets have any significant impact on the usage of Technology by users?".  Keep the conversation going.  On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Victor van Reijswoud <victor.vanreijsw...@gmail.com> wrote: What do you want to get straight? That the man is doing a marvellous job and that we are all happy that he takes initiative to engage more people in order to try to bridge the digital divide? Thanks for your support! V On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Jake Markhus <jmark...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can we get this straight? > > The “localisation of firefox” is the Insertion of a language file for > Acholi. This means that you can translate all the standard > menu items and labels OF THE BROWSER into acholi. This is a UX (User > Experience) enhancement(?) and has nothing to do with > source code or web content browsed. > > It further demonstrates how pluggable Firefox is. This is the equivalent of > installing a French dictionary to do spell check. > > A point one must consider is that by the time a user is conversant enough to > not only read acholi but to look for certain settings > a features in acholi for their technical utility that  user ALREADY knows > English. > > I wonder what the “delete cookies” option will look like in acholi. What > about the “privacy settings”? > > > > > > From: lug-boun...@linux.or.ug [mailto:lug-boun...@linux.or.ug] On Behalf Of > Geoffrey Agoi > Sent: Monday, 25 February 2013 09:12 > > > To: Uganda Linux User Group > Subject: Re: [LUG] FireFox now in Acholi > > > > I see it as a business opportunity in itself. I believe its worthwile > localising webcontents in the long run. There is a lot on advocacy for > universal ACCESS but of what use if the content are of no value. > > > Mob: +256 774 799056; +256 754 486 545 > > Alt. email: geoffrey.a...@ict.go.ug > > > > ==================================================== > > > > ==================================================== > > > > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Richard Obore <oborerich...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > My name is Obore, so even though I wish to play devil's advocate for a > moment, I hope it is understood that am not against the Acholi (my > ancestors) or any local Ugandan tribe, or even translation... > > BUT: > > So, Firefox is in Acholi - now what?  Are there any websites in Acholi? > > > Is it worth it translating anything to Luganda, Runyankore, Lusoga, etc? > (besides sentimental value & proof of concept) > > I suspect that most Ugandans who have access to a browser plus internet > connection speak English anyway, don't they? > (OK, maybe not the Bukedde group, but all others i suppose) > > I have no facts to support what i claim - just anecdotal evidence. But am > open to your ideas. > Whats your opinion? Are there any records about non-english literacy in > Uganda? > > > R. > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Kyle Spencer <k...@stormzero.com> wrote: > > Very cool :) > > On Feb 20, 2013 12:21 AM, "Mugabi Allan" <mugabia...@gmail.com> wrote: > > This is incredible, focusing more on Local Content before reaching out to > the World. > > > > -- > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Mugabi Allan Kitaka | Google Student Ambassador Lead | Uganda Christian > University | Uganda | +256785225384 > > > > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: LUG@linux.or.ug > Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lug@linux.or.ug/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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