My 2cents, G is as earlier said, an improvement “across the board” and while I 
agree it should be infrastructural, I think it should be quality wise, reach 
and cost too!

Even as human beings when we say, “in my generation” we seldom speak about just 
age (which coincidentally is the qualifier) but also about standard of living, 
cost

Of living and such measures of DEVELOPMENT. Now if an SOB who was formerly 
selling his bandwidth so expensively that 16kBps was the norm suddenly lowers 
price so as
to make 512kbps a reality, don’t allow him to say, “this is the next 
generation”.

I personally enjoyed Sam’s article because he defined ALL measures before 
telling you why no one in Uganda deserves to brag about achieving 4G. Boaz 
Shani tried to bring up the
issue of false advertising to UCC to no avail because it seems telecos in 
Uganda seem to be the tail that wags the dog. The bandwidth game in Uganda is 
like that rape anecdote (Hi Kibuule!)

Or the more tasteful but just as gross “juicy frog” anecdote both of which 
teach us to merely make the best of our being screwed over or having to eat a 
frog.

Today bandwidth is the equivalent of what the floppy disk was when I began 
messing with Linux. Instead of asking how many floppies it took you to get X 
running on your distro, you now ask
how the hell long it took you to download the latest stuff and its dependency. 
The fact that we have in country mirroring and have no consideration or support 
from a local telco shows clearly
that the situation was/is dire and that it will continue to be so until the 
issue of false advertising and breach of promise is addressed. Today, I don’t 
know which ISP will not only take responsibility
for down time but also reimburse you. When it comes to loss, “we are in this 
together because the cable was cut” but when it comes to gain, “we can’t lower 
price because that last mile is too costly”.

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Peter C. Ndikuwera
Sent: 25 September 2013 23:51
To: Uganda Linux User Group
Subject: Re: [LUG] How far are Ugandan 4G networks “4G”?

 

While wikipedia isn't the most trustworthy source, it's opening blurb seems to 
dispute what you're saying:

 

"3G telecommunication networks support services that provide an information 
transfer rate of at least 200  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobit_per_second> kbit/s. However, many 
services advertised as 3G provide higher speed than the minimum technical 
requirements for a 3G service. Later 3G releases, often denoted  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5G> 3.5G and  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.75G> 3.75G, also provide  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_broadband> mobile broadband access of 
several  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbps> Mbit/s to  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone> smartphones and  
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_modem> mobile modems in laptop computers."

 

Seems to imply that to be called XG, a network has to provide a minimum 
transfer speed according to IMT-2000 specs. Now, the marketeers may be misusing 
the terms, but shouldn't one expect a "4G" network to provide a certain minimum 
speed?

 

P.




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Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely improbable events 
occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no one is given 
credit.

 

On 25 September 2013 21:46, Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

On 25 September 2013 20:36, sanga collins <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
> In the states companies can face legal action for false advertising claims.
> If the same mechanisms were in place in Uganda, local telcos may not be so
> quick to throw catch phrases and marketing gimmicks at customers instead of
> the service you are paying for.

Again, the "G" isn't a measurement for speed, it's a measurement for
generations. Each time you change the radio link technology to
something newer, you increment one. In the USA, HSDPA is called 4G. In
most of western Europe, HSDPA is known as 3G, or sometimes 3G+ or
Turbo-3G or similar. It's a fairly worthless marketing term, that's
it.

Or were you referring to some actual speed claims in advertising I've
missed? In that case, my apologies :)

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