I agree with Ariel, thumb out, thumb under makes no real difference if you
insist on gluing your little finger to the sound board.  The real problem as
I understand it from my experience is the angle of attack the fingers and
thumb are able to execute on the individual courses.  I have found that the
best sound is produced when the fingers move the strings from directly
above. This produces a clear and resonant sound especially using thumb out.
Moving the arm is not so much a matter of gaining speed in diminutions but
in allowing the hand to function in the correct position to produce a
beautiful, and clean tone.  For me it is impossible to get my hand in this
position over the basses and keep the little finger anchored to the sound
board.

The relaxed first joint is ideal but, in order for the first joint to
actually activate the doubled strings the digit must come at the string from
almost a right angle in relation to the sound board. Any angle that favors a
direction toward the floor will cause the digit to either miss the string
altogether or to pluck it upward. This is what causes rattle and nail bite
regardless of how short you cut the nails on the right hand,--- been there
done that and agonized over correcting it.  If you dogmatically adhere to
the concept of anchoring the little finger to the sound board this angle of
attack is impossible over the total range of the instrument's register,
anything lower than fourth course is going to suffer if your little finger
is as short as mine.

 I therefore float the finger.  I anchor it for the three upper courses and
bring it up for the lower courses.  If I don't do this I start missing notes
and the sound is unclear, I then have a tendency to rotate my wrist out away
from the Lute in order to utilize the index finger.  This in turn causes my
thumb to fly away from the sound board.  In the end, if I carry this problem
to extremes, it makes the right hand look more like some one drumming on a
bongo. This works OK if you are playing slowly but speed is an impossibility
with this issue as it increases with the tempo.

Sorry for the rambling on about the right hand but I have spent the last
five years trying to figure out just exactly how it works, why it works and
why it does not work.  I have tried every possible way of playing the right
hand, and every way of striking the strings.

Vance Wood.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "arielabramovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: right arm motion - thumb under


> Dear Christopher,
>                            besides any historical consideration, you'll
see
> two very good and very different modern players using right arm motion
while
> playing divisions: Paul O' Dette, and Hoppy.
>                           The reason why I do it  and would recommend it
is
> that, even willing to use just the fingers to pluck, you would have to
move
> your arm to lead them to the right place (course).  There's no way you can
> play some very difficult pieces (fast runs from the 1st to 6th course)
> without moving your arm... at least if you play thumb under.
>                           Also, after a bit of work, using the arm allows
us
> to obtain a much more lighter and "vocal" diminutions, and a wide dynamic
> range, which is harder to obtain only using the fingers (the sound tends
to
> be tight in my experience, even when you have the tip joints relaxed-which
> is great).
>                           Best,
>                                   Ariel.
>
>
>


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