Dear Martyn,

Yes, you are right, when I was in highschool, physics was always my  
weak subject=A1 I think it was a wise decision to become a musician and  
not a scientific.
Sorry if I misunderstood your point.
Best wishes,

Alfonso

On 13-okt-2006, at 18:14, Martyn Hodgson wrote:

> You misunderstand my point.  It is, of course, the relatively low  
> breaking stress of gut (compared to modern nylon, say) which  
> requires lowering the top one or two courses on a theorbo.
>
> You also seem to be unable to comprehend the elementary laws of  
> physics. Might I suggest you read the archives.
>
> MH
>
>
>
> Alfonso Marin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Matyn,
>
> If you can find gut (or even nylgut) strings that will allow a   
> theorbo of 90cm in A to be tuned without re-entrant tuning, please,  
> let me know. I will be willing to try them!
> Diameter also have to do with tone quality. Such an extremely thin  
> string on that string lenth would sound very flimsy. If you use a  
> thicker diamenter, the tension would be unbearable for the instrument.
> If you think that the reason for the re-entrant tuning of the  
> theorbo is not conditioned by physical reasons but musical, I can  
> tell you that you are on the wrong direction of thinking.
>
> Alfonso
>
> On 13-okt-2006, at 16:52, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
>
>>
>> Setting the top one or two courses of the theorbo an octave down  
>> has nothing whatsoever to do with the diameter of the string (as  
>> pointed out many times before - see archives).   It has to do with  
>> the string length,  the string material and the pitch. This leads  
>> to the breaking stress related to the pitch at which a string of a  
>> given material and length will break.
>>
>> Thus for two strings of the same material and length, the pitch at  
>> which they will break is identical.  For example, a string of say  
>> 10mm  in diameter will, of course, require a much greater force to  
>> break than one of, say, 0.01mm but it has a much greater cross- 
>> sectional area and the Breaking Stress (ie Breaking Force/Cross- 
>> sectional area) is identical for the two strings.
>>
>> MH
>>
>> Alfonso Marin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Dear Craig,
>>
>> The re-entrant tuning on the theorbo has its origins on the physical
>> nature of gut strings. The long string lengths of this instrument
>> makes impossible to get gut thin enough to have the 2nd and 1st
>> strings at "normal" pitch. This apparent drawback, used with
>> intelligence on continuo playing can actually be of help. The problem
>> is that the re-entrant tuning makes the instrument somehow less
>> logical and [EMAIL PROTECTED] have to study its possibilities
>> carefully to make good use of it.
>> I hope this helps,
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Alfonso
>>
>>
>> The re-entrant tuning on the
>> On 13-okt-2006, at 13:19, Craig Allen wrote:
>>
>> > Dear Collective Wisdom,
>> >
>> > The subject says it all. Re-entrant tuning is used on the theorbo
>> > and if I recall the gittern. But why? I have not played an
>> > instrument tuned this way so don't have any practical experience
>> > with the sound or feel. Why are these (and presumabley other)
>> > instruments tuned this way?
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Craig
>> >
>> >
>> >
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