And in the case of Eisler and Dessau it can be positively classy, especially when Gisela May sung to such an accompaniment.
RT

From: "Jerzy Zak" <[email protected]>
Oh well, I remember it from my school years, …hm. I thought it was an
eastern/communistic miserable licence for a substitute of harpsichord,
at most good for a cabaret. Now!, I see, it has it's class and
composers. Tomorrow we'll need a true replica ;-))

j
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On 2009-07-10, at 00:03, Roman Turovsky wrote:

I think it is a contraption that inserts a metal platelet between hammers and strings, and creates a sort of a "whorehouse harpsichord".
It was much loved by both Dessau and Eisler.
RT (fan of both)


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerzy Zak" <[email protected]>
To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Erzlaute


That reminds me the term rather seldom used nowadays: "teorbierte
laute" (or close to that spelling), which for a long time had an
awkward Polish equivalent …really a terrible one, doesn't matter what.
Time has changed, now we have some English language problems and e.g.
the untranslatable to Polish "re-entrant". As the early music movement
is slowly passing away (Oooo?!) …well, evolving -- I wonder if the
last mentioned term will still be understood in 20 or 40 years.

Now, tell me what is "wanzenklavier" - ? I'm looking closer at some
XXth C. songs with guitar and came accros "Tierverse für Gesang,
Gitarre und Wanzenklavier" by Paul Dessau.

J
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On 2009-07-09, at 22:14, Mathias Rösel wrote:

And btw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archlute is just as sweeping IMHO,
neglecting differences between the liuto attiorbato, the arciliuto  and
the archlute.

Someone put a language link to it into
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzlaute, but that is misleading. The
German term Erzlaute was meant to be generic.

Mathias

"Jerzy Zak" <[email protected]> schrieb:
David,
Thanks for that.

Besides, you've writen a very interesting comment on the "latest
semiannual online comparison of video hosting sites
". I'm absolutely
not qualified to comment on that, but would love to read other's --
just to remind it's still "untouched" by other pluckers. Perhaps  some
lute exemple
??

J
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On 2009-07-09, at 20:33, David Tayler wrote:

Archlute
dt

At 11:29 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote:
What is an "Erzlaute"?
The other instruments pecified on the page are "organ,  harpsichord,
violins, cello, guitar, theorbE".

jz



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