And I thought the singed spots in the lacquer on my 10c. were bad!  We
   missed so many good photo-ops back in the old days!  Some day,
   though, everyone will have their entire lives on video.

   Best, and keep on playin'

   CS
   >>> David Tayler <[email protected]> 2/18/2010 3:16 PM >>>
   This is the knot I mostly use, I saw it in Germany in th '70s so it
   has been in use for a while.
   Once, when tying this know, I was burning the end with a lighter, and
   the lighter had an unusually long flame, which instantly incinerated
   all seven of my long strings on the theorbo.
   Oh for a photo of that moment.....
   dt
   At 06:20 AM 2/18/2010, you wrote:
   >Hi All,
   >
   >The breakthrough for me came when I changed my method of fret
   knotting.
   >I used to tie a slip knot ("granny knot" - a reef knot with the
   >second turn the wrong way).  Works fine for thin frets, and with
   >smooth-finished gut, but otherwise the slip knot is not so willing
   >to slip.  So I tried the method someone suggested to me (Pat
   >O'Brien?) which is to tie a single overhand knot near the end and
   >pass the free end through it - the ultimate slip knot, not really a
   >knot at all.
   >Surprisingly, the gut has enough friction that when you pull this up
   >it holds without slipping back, so you tighten it nearer the nut
   >than you want to end up (a choix), trim off the free end and burn it
   >down to lock it, then slide the fret up to where you want it.  It's
   >very neat, too.
   >But as for double frets.....
   >
   >Best wishes,
   >
   >Martin
   >
   >Martyn Hodgson wrote:
   >>
   >>    The gut should be pre-stretched before fitting. Mace (1676 p 69)
   >>    confirms this and provides good practical advice:
   >>
   >>    ' And you will find, that the first Fret, will be ever the
   hardest to
   >>    Tye well on, for two Reasons.
   >>    First, because it is the Thickest, therefore not so ready to ply,
   and
   >>    stretch.
   >>    2sly. Because there is but a little narrower room above It, by
   reason
   >>    it is so near the Nutt: Therefore you must be the more careful ,
   to
   >>    stretch it very well, before you settle It.'
   >>
   >>    He also recommends tying it higher (ie to wards the nut) and
   stretching
   >>    by forcing down to its alotted position a number of times: 'Thus
   do it
   >>    three or four times, till at last you find it stiff,....'
   >>
   >>    Finally he suggests a second knot to prevent any possible
   slipping:
   >>    '... you are (after all stretching) to Tye it, of another hard
   Knot,
   >>    and then it is firmly fast'.
   >>
   >>    MH
   >>    --- On Wed, 17/2/10, Christopher Stetson <[email protected]>
   wrote:
   >>
   >>      From: Christopher Stetson <[email protected]>
   >>      Subject: [LUTE] Re: New frets
   >>      To: "Lute List" <[email protected]>
   >>      Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 20:35
   >>
   >>       Neat tricks, Sterling and Leonard!  They've allowed me to yet
   again
   >>    put
   >>       off refretting.
   >>       While we're here, does any have any tricks for getting and/or
   >>    keeping
   >>       the 1st fret really tight?
   >>       Best to all,
   >>       Chris.
   >>
   >>
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