Dear Franc,ois
Thank you for contributing to the discussion. Perhaps you could
say what diameter you would need for the double top string on this
instrument, if it was gut, and what you actually have with Titanium
Nylon?
Would 67cm have been the historic length for such an instrument, and if
so, what would have been its likely historic diapason, as only gut
would have been available at the time?
If I understand you correctly, it is ensemble playing that has forced
you to adopt a higher diapason than one would expect with such an
instrument, and so to look for a string that can support this sort of
tension?
Best wishes
Anthony
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>De : "Franc,ois Pizette" <[email protected]>
>A : "Lute net" <[email protected]>
>Objet : [LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?
>Date : 07/10/2010 14:52:07 CEST
>
>Dear Anthony, and allI was one of these two french luthenists.In fact
> Titanium nylon trebles is my best solution to have a great tensile
strengh
>
> and an easy to handle diameter, so a lower density is the most
important
> thing. My aim is to play on my "classical" archlute by Gyorgy
Lorinczi
> according with my personal choice of a 67 cm string lenght in
Ensemble Music
>
> at modern pitch A =440Hz with the first course doubled.A very good
surprise
>
> is the smootheness of the contact and an easier expressivity compared
with
> Perlon or Nylon.Nylgut and gut would breakCarbon would be too
thin.Please
> Excuse my ...English Original message:[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings +
Titanium
>
> Nylon?Anthony HindTue, 05 Oct 2010 06:26:03 -0700Dear Ed and All
> For the reason you state below :
> %
> > The density of carbon is so much
> > more than gut, therefore a smaller size is appropriate, around a
0.38
> > or so. Because of the need for a smaller diameter, the sound is
> > certainly more sharp sounding.
> >
> > ed
> %
> two lutenists on the French list, who have adopted synthetic strings
> for their stability, (rather than just for their low cost), and who
are
> ready to experiment to achieve the sound they are looking for, have
> adopted very low density Titanium Nylon fishing lines for their top
> strings, which they claim give a thicker, and therefore, sweeter
warmer
> sounding top string for the same tension, compared to high density KF
> carbon (which they use for their Meanes) or even compared to slightly
> higher density nylon.
> %
> They liked the sound of the old nylgut (with its density close to
gut),
> but claimed that it tended to break too easilly (which presumably has
> been resolved with the latest version)..
> %
> In fact, they were looking for a sound similar to that which is
> achieved with titanium nylon guitar strings, but these do not exist
in
> diameters suitable for the lute.
> It would seem that such a string can be found in a suitable diameter
> (0,35 to 0,50) in fishing line, under the name, Nylon Powerline
> Titanium; but there is also Asari Falcon titanium G2, which might be
> suitable.
> (for those interested these are special fishing lines for surf
casting)
> %
> FranAS:ois Pizette gave the following comparative table of densities
> (which I have not checked out):
> %
> titanium nylon :1.04
> nylon: 1.12
> perlon: 1.22
> nylgut: 1.3
> gut: 1.36
> KF pvf: 1.81
>
>
>
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