Thank you, Chris.  I shall indeed seek out "The End of Early Music" ( and other 
of Bruce Haynes' writings ). 
On May 7, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:

> Ned,
> 
>   I think David also mentioned Bruce Haynes who writes from more of a HIP 
> insider's point of view.  He discusses a lot of similar issues as Taruskin, 
> drawing his own conclusions.  I'd recommend "The End of Early Music."
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> Christopher Wilke
> Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
> www.christopherwilke.com
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 5/7/11, Edward Mast <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> From: Edward Mast <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: New blog post
>> To: "David van Ooijen" <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 8:57 AM
>> David, I mentioned Richard Taruskin
>> simply because I took your view to be similarly out of the
>> mainstream of HIP thinking as his is.  Namely, that
>> generally HIP performances truly represent a far more
>> modern, than historical approach and
>> aesthetic.   I don't know if the other
>> writers you refer to have similar views, not having read
>> them, but RT has come in for extensive criticism from the
>> early music world for his views.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 7, 2011, at 5:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7 May 2011 11:23, Gary Digman <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>> I don't know what exactly you mean by
>> "gratuitous". I assume  you did not
>>> 
>>> Gratuitous dissonants are dissonants outside the frame
>> of reference
>>> for the listener, and therefore without obvious
>> meaning, or usefulness
>>> to him/her. The 'there's no point but to shock'
>> reaction.
>>> A Medieval listener to organum would be shocked by
>> thirds on strong
>>> beats, and no doubts think a third in a final chord
>> outrageously
>>> gratuitous.
>>> What for Wagner was common harmonical language might
>> be gratuitously
>>> dissonant to the casual Baroque listener.
>>> As a point in case: my classical guitar teacher didn't
>> like jazz
>>> because of all those unresolved sevenths! ;-)
>>> 
>>> David - who forgot to mention Wodehouse, Dogen and
>> Milne, to whomever
>>> it was asking for his literary inspiration
>>> -- 
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