Ned,

   I think David also mentioned Bruce Haynes who writes from more of a HIP 
insider's point of view.  He discusses a lot of similar issues as Taruskin, 
drawing his own conclusions.  I'd recommend "The End of Early Music."

Chris


Christopher Wilke
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com


--- On Sat, 5/7/11, Edward Mast <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Edward Mast <[email protected]>
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: New blog post
> To: "David van Ooijen" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Date: Saturday, May 7, 2011, 8:57 AM
> David, I mentioned Richard Taruskin
> simply because I took your view to be similarly out of the
> mainstream of HIP thinking as his is.  Namely, that
> generally HIP performances truly represent a far more
> modern, than historical approach and
> aesthetic.   I don't know if the other
> writers you refer to have similar views, not having read
> them, but RT has come in for extensive criticism from the
> early music world for his views.
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2011, at 5:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
> 
> > On 7 May 2011 11:23, Gary Digman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> I don't know what exactly you mean by
> "gratuitous". I assume  you did not
> > 
> > Gratuitous dissonants are dissonants outside the frame
> of reference
> > for the listener, and therefore without obvious
> meaning, or usefulness
> > to him/her. The 'there's no point but to shock'
> reaction.
> > A Medieval listener to organum would be shocked by
> thirds on strong
> > beats, and no doubts think a third in a final chord
> outrageously
> > gratuitous.
> > What for Wagner was common harmonical language might
> be gratuitously
> > dissonant to the casual Baroque listener.
> > As a point in case: my classical guitar teacher didn't
> like jazz
> > because of all those unresolved sevenths! ;-)
> > 
> > David - who forgot to mention Wodehouse, Dogen and
> Milne, to whomever
> > it was asking for his literary inspiration
> > -- 
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