I personally like the sound of octaves starting on the 5th course and going down.A I have always found the 4th in octaves to be difficult at tuning.A On my soprano lute 6 course however, I use unisons.
A Bruno On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Anthony Hind <[1][email protected]> wrote: A You are right of course, A and I do have unissons on the fourth and A fifth, but octaves beginning on the 6th. A I wasn't thinking straight, but vaguely remembering that someone jumped A to the conclusion that because I A had unissons on the fifth I also had them on the sixth, which of course A is not at all the same thing. Appologies, Miles and Matthias, for A my half-awake state, in spite of the late hour. A Regards A Anthony A A __________________________________________________________________ A De : Miles Dempster <[2][email protected]> A A : Lute List <[3][email protected]> A Envoye le : Vendredi 25 Novembre 2011 14h43 A Objet : [LUTE] Re: Le Roy Dentice and Octave stringing A My understanding is that, generally speaking, the purpose of the octave A is to brighten up a course which would otherwise sound too muddy. A Since 'muddiness' increases with string thickness, if the 5th course A doesn't need an octave, then why would the 4th course would need one? A Miles A On 2011-11-25, at 8:04 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: A > A Matthias, I am not quite sure why we may infer the following: A > A "I understand the author as saying that a) he himself has an octave A > A string A > A with his 5th course, as opposed to b) Dentice and followers A (Italians A > A in A > A general?) who have unisons for the 5th course. One may infer that A > A Dentice A > A also had unisons for his 4th course." Mathias A > A I have unissons on the 5th course of my 7c lute, but octaves on my A > A fourth, but perhaps I have missed something. A > A Regards A > A Anthony A > A A __________________________________________________________________ A > A > A De : Mathias Roesel <[1][4][email protected]> A > A A : 'Lute Net' <[2][5][email protected]> A > A Envoye le : Jeudi 24 Novembre 2011 17h35 A > A Objet : [LUTE] Re: Le Roy Dentice and Octave stringing A >> Neverthelesse the Tune self of the same .F. Is found in the same A >> compainie, and eight of the greate fift stryng: A >> which reason could not be in Lutes, tuned after the manner of A Fabrice A > A Dentice A >> the Italian, and other his followers. Where those strynges that A > A satnde A > A twoo and A >> twoo together, bee sette in one Tune and not by eightes, which thei A > A do for A > A a A >> perfection of harmonie, in avoiding many unissons, which those eight A > A would A >> cause." A >> 2. I understand Le Roy is saying that Dentice used a unison 5th A > A course, A > A not just a A >> unison 4th. Is this right? A > A I understand the author as saying that a) he himself has an octave A > A string A > A with his 5th course, as opposed to b) Dentice and followers A (Italians A > A in A > A general?) who have unisons for the 5th course. One may infer that A > A Dentice A > A also had unisons for his 4th course. A > A Mathias A > A To get on or off this list see list information at A > A [1][3][6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html A > A > A -- A > A > References A > A > A 1. [4][7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html A > A -- A -- References A 1. mailto:[8][email protected] A 2. mailto:[9][email protected] A 3. [10]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html A 4. [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html -- A Bruno Cognyl-Fournier A [12]www.estavel.org A -- References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 8. mailto:[email protected] 9. mailto:[email protected] 10. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 12. http://www.estavel.org/
