Chris, the concept is so well expressed..
Donatella ----Messaggio originale---- Da: [email protected] Data: 14/03/2012 13.29 A: <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"<[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Ogg: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers Donatella, In America the change in music came much earlier, in many places preceding the Second Vatican Council. The Catholic Church in America took great pride in dissociating itself from "old world ways" by rejecting chant and polyphony. In its place, they replaced these traditions with very poor pseudo-folk music. I suppose this was done in order to provide "hip" music to attract young people, under the assumption that no one under 30 can stand still long enough to appreciate beauty. Unfortunately, the resultant music was some hideous hybrid that succeeded in being neither appropriately sacred nor in any way interesting to young people. At any rate, young people stayed away in droves, largely because of this smaltzy stuff. Still, these very same wannabe hippy songs - now approaching 50 years old - and the stated need to use them to attract young people are repeated ad nauseum. One of the great unwritten-about artistic travesties of the 20th century is the fact that this entire repertoire, which replaced a still-living century's old tradition, was not called for by any Church decree, but was largely engineered by the publishing company Oregan Catholic Press. If you go to practically any church in the country you will find the same poor quality songs from the 1960's and 1970's in the hymnals. This is not due to regulation, but rather a publishing deal. Chris Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A. Music Faculty Nazareth College, Rochester, NY State University of New York at Geneseo Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Wed, 3/14/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers To: [email protected] Cc: lute@cs. dartmouth.edu Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 3:49 AM I googled, in Italian, and this came out [1]http://www.giovaninsede. it/animazione-liturgica.php , there are no notes as music is not thaught in the same way as abroad, so average people can sometimes read chords ( sigh) and that is. You can get an idea. I used to go to Mass as a child, and songs which were sung were possibly ancient and complex, often in Latin, then when the previous Pope came, he destroyed that part, I guess to make audience ( sad to say, but that is), so that songs became the poorest, musically speaking, you can imagine, accompanied by guitar, organ was heard now and then. It was part of a "renovation" of which I can give an example: in the village where I go on holiday , there is a Chapel with a Renaissance painting. It needed restoring, but it was visible. Well , it was covered with a representation of a black Madonna ( I can't think of the proper name right now) which is not even of any artistic value. To me listening to the Mass became a real suffering, this is not the main reason why I quit, but I did. Lute and theorbo are allowed, I have been asked several times to play a piece during the mass ( but I have not done it up to now) Donatella ---- Messaggio originale---- Da: [2][email protected] Data: 14/03/2012 1.06 A: "Lute Net"<lute@cs. dartmouth.edu> Ogg: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers On Mar 13, 2012, at 4: 01 PM, Tony wrote: > The Church's doctrine on liturgical music can be summarized in seven > points .... Doubtless there are listers who know more about this than I do, but this list seems like a compilation of things that have been said on the subject over the centuries, rather than functioning doctrine. A lot of it is pre- Vatican II. The one about guitars, for example, is obviously forty or fifty years years out of date. Try googling: catholic mass guitar (no quotes). Apparently the current pope Benedict doesn't like guitars. -- To get on or off this list see list information at [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html E' nata indoona: chiama, videochiama e messaggia Gratis. Scarica indoona per iPhone, Android e PC: [4]http://www.indoona.com/ -- References 1. http://www.giovaninsede/ 2. file://localhost/mc/compose? [email protected] 3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute- admin/index.html 4. http://www.indoona.com/ E' nata indoona: chiama, videochiama e messaggia Gratis. Scarica indoona per iPhone, Android e PC: http://www.indoona.com/
