Chris,
the concept is so well expressed..
Donatella
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Ogg: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers
Donatella,
In America the change in music came much earlier, in
many places
preceding the Second Vatican Council. The Catholic
Church in America
took great pride in dissociating itself from "old
world ways" by
rejecting chant and polyphony. In its place, they
replaced these
traditions with very poor pseudo-folk music. I
suppose this was done in
order to provide "hip" music to attract
young people, under the
assumption that no one under 30 can stand
still long enough to
appreciate beauty. Unfortunately, the resultant
music was some hideous
hybrid that succeeded in being neither
appropriately sacred nor in any
way interesting to young people. At
any rate, young people stayed away
in droves, largely because of
this smaltzy stuff. Still, these very
same wannabe hippy songs - now
approaching 50 years old - and the
stated need to use them to
attract young people are repeated ad
nauseum.
One of the
great unwritten-about artistic travesties of the 20th
century is the
fact that this entire repertoire, which replaced a
still-living
century's old tradition, was not called for by any Church
decree,
but was largely engineered by the publishing company Oregan
Catholic
Press. If you go to practically any church in the country you
will
find the same poor quality songs from the 1960's and 1970's in the
hymnals. This is not due to regulation, but rather a publishing deal.
Chris
Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Music Faculty
Nazareth
College, Rochester, NY
State University of New York at Geneseo
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Nazi rules
for jazz performers
To: [email protected]
Cc: lute@cs.
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Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2012, 3:49 AM
I
googled, in Italian, and this came out [1]http://www.giovaninsede.
it/animazione-liturgica.php , there are no notes as music is not
thaught in the same way as abroad, so average people can sometimes read
chords ( sigh) and that is. You can get an idea. I used to go to
Mass
as a child, and songs which were sung were possibly ancient and
complex, often in Latin, then when the previous Pope came, he
destroyed that part, I guess to make audience ( sad to say, but that
is), so that songs became the poorest, musically speaking, you can
imagine, accompanied by guitar, organ was heard now and then. It was
part of a "renovation" of which I can give an example: in the village
where I go on holiday , there is a Chapel with a Renaissance
painting.
It needed restoring, but it was visible. Well , it was
covered with a
representation of a black Madonna ( I can't think of
the proper name
right now) which is not even of any artistic value.
To me listening to
the Mass became a real suffering, this is not
the main reason why I
quit, but I did.
Lute and theorbo are
allowed, I have been asked
several times to play a piece during the
mass ( but I have not done it
up to now)
Donatella
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Ogg:
[LUTE] Re: Nazi rules for jazz performers
On Mar
13, 2012, at 4:
01 PM, Tony wrote:
> The Church's doctrine on
liturgical music
can be summarized in seven
> points ....
Doubtless
there are
listers who know more about this than I do, but this list
seems like
a compilation of things that have been said on the subject
over the
centuries, rather than functioning doctrine. A lot of it is
pre-
Vatican II. The one about guitars, for example, is obviously forty
or fifty years years out of date. Try googling: catholic mass guitar
(no quotes). Apparently the current pope Benedict doesn't like
guitars.
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