Eugene,
       I certainly wasn't speaking of your series, with which I am of
   course well acquainted and, as you say, offers fair compensation. But
   you wouldn't believe the amounts some places come up with. Double
   digits, even. That is their prerogative, of course. However, it is hard
   to believe the players who always buy seats for their instruments on
   the plane who appear on the same series are working for something close
   to that.
       I understand. Times are tough for series organizers, too. But this
   type of pay scale certainly makes it difficult to perform regionally,
   much less nationally, if you're not already a securely established
   senior artist.
   Chris
   Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
   Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
   www.christopherwilke.com
     __________________________________________________________________

   From: "Braig, Eugene" <[email protected]>
   To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
   Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 1:12 PM
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
   Sorry, we really do try our best, but a series like ours here in
   Columbus, OH doesn't draw the huge names and never pays the somewhat
   biggish names anything close to what they ask or deserve.  I.e., that
   split isn't so wide here.
   Eugene
   ________________________________________
   From: [1][email protected] [[2][email protected]] on
   behalf of Christopher Wilke [[3][email protected]]
   Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 11:50 AM
   To: William Samson; [4][email protected]
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
     On the other hand, this can make things incredibly difficult for
     professionals in the nebulous middle between amateur and big-name
     status. I have turned down offers simply because the fee wouldn't
   even
     cover travel expenses. Then I look at the series and see that they
   have
     a mix of big name acts with some local players on there. I know about
     how much the Names make and it is exponentially more than what I get
     offered.
     I wish these organizations might budget for something between their
     "legitimate" and "no name" fees that would make touring at least
     feasible for people who have not reached the top tier yet.
     Chris
     Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
     Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
     www.christopherwilke.com
       __________________________________________________________________
     From: William Samson <[5][email protected]>
     To: "[6][email protected]" <[7][email protected]>
     Sent: Friday, August 9, 2013 6:44 PM
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
       The point I am making about fees is that any society around here at
       that time (Dundee, Scotland, 1980) has a fixed budget for
   performers.
       The usual practice (even now, I believe) is to use local amateur
       performers to fill most of the slots at minimal expense so
       that the money can be husbanded to pay for a few big names, each
       year, who usually have to travel a considerable distance (from
     London,
       for example) to perform.  As for equal fees, I think not - Is Bill
       Samson worth as much as Nigel North for a gig of equal duration?
   Of
       course not.  The annual budget is fixed, so the bulk of it should
   go
     to
       the best performers.  Do support bands earn as much as headline
   bands
     .
       . .?  I think you'll agree that this is quite different from
   selling
     a
       photograph for publication (which I have also done) at the standard
       rate set by the publisher.
       As with your own situation, there were no professional early
     musicians
       living nearby who's gigs we were stealing - Even so, the fun was
   the
       thing, and if by saving money the organisers were able to attract
       somebody really outstanding at another time in the season, so much
     the
       better for all concerned.
       Bill
       From: Geoff Gaherty <[1][8][email protected]>
       To: William Samson <[2][9][email protected]>
       Sent: Friday, 9 August 2013, 22:53
       Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
       On 09/08/13 4:55 PM, William Samson wrote:
       > As amateurs we only accepted travelling expenses and any
     hospitality
       > that was on offer, but we politely declined any fee.  I am of the
       > opinion that for an amateur musician accept a fee is to take what
     is
       > due to those who depend on performing fees to make a living.
       As well as being an amateur lutenist, I am also an amateur
       photographer.
         One of my photography teachers made the point that anyone who
   sells
     a
       photograph for publication, amateur or professional, should expect
     the
       same fee.  By allowing our photographs to sell for less, we are
       undercutting the professionals, and depriving them of a livelihood.
     If
       it's good enough to publish, it's worth the same fee, no matter who
       took it.
       I myself do a lot of performing for free, but I do it because it's
     fun.
         Besides, there are no professional early musicians in my
   community,
       so
       I'm not stealing anyone's gigs, and I am (hopefully) increasing the
       audience for early music.
       Geoff
       --
       Geoff Gaherty
       Foxmead Observatory
       Coldwater, Ontario, Canada
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