I guess the instrument would have looked much different later,
I just remembered this peculiar instrument.
The bass cittern would then probably look like a big one with long extra
neck for the bass strings?
Joachim's book lists the "Ceterone" with a picture, it has an extended
It looks like it's this instrument:
Am 02.02.2018 um 03:34 schrieb Alain Veylit:
I had assumed a smaller instrument based on the fingerings... and the
laws of physics... But the time frame would be a fit.
On 02/01/2018 02:22 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
Is this the prototype of the instrument?
Similar to a Bass Lute (I think it was a Dieffopruchar model...)
with long body before long necks were built?
Am 01.02.2018 um 20:09 schrieb Nancy Carlin:
Several years back there was an interview with Peter Forrester in the
LSA Quarterly that included a picture of that type of cittern, which
I believe is also called for in some Monteverdi. When I was studying
musicology back c1970 I took a class on Montederdi and the professor
had no idea what a theorbo really was and assumed that the theorboed
cittern was just a mis-spelled chitarrone. I think Peter Forrester
said in that article that he had built 2 of those theorboed citterns.
Perhaps Virgo is actually (Paolo) Virchi (1551 - 1610)?
His father(?) was Giraolamo Virchi (or de Virchi) a maker of
From: Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com>
Date: 28 January 2018 at 19:01
Subject: [LUTE] Re: [Citara tiorbata]
To: Lute List <email@example.com>
I revised a transcription I made some time ago of P.P. Melli's
del Ardito Gracioso (1616), a suite for 9 instruments, including 3
(arch)lutes and a citara tiorbata "cordatura del Signor Virgo).
still struggling with the tuning of that instrument which was
apparently more a cittern than a guitar. The Signor Virgo is
be found on the Net, otherwise I would ask him about his tuning I
guess, but given his elusiveness I am wondering if one of you
able to provide more information than I was able to gather already.
The instrumentation of that suite is definitely exotic : why
double-strung harp (alpa doppia) play the same notes as the
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