All of Europe's population was drunk all the time, until 1683, when coffee was adopted
from the Turks.
RT

       Wasn't Dowland fired by King Christian of Denmark for being drunk
    all
       the time? Could it be then considered that playing ‘stoned' was more
       ‘authentic'?
       A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
       The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
       Francisco Goya
       On Feb 2, 2018, at 5:26 AM, fournierbru <[1]fournier...@gmail.com>
       wrote:
         the Montreal community will be able to get stoned legalllly as of
       july
         1st...personally at 59..I am no longer interested..prefer playing
         Ballard and Gaultier
         Bruno
         Envoyé de mon appareil Samsung de Bell via le réseau le plus vaste
    au
         pays.
         -------- Message d'origine --------
         De : Dan Winheld <[2]dwinh...@lmi.net>
         Date : 18-02-01 8:44 PM (GMT-05:00)
         À : Susan Sandman <[3]susan.sand...@gmail.com>, Tristan von
    Neumann
         <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
         Cc : lutelist Net <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
         Objet : [LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book
         They are legalizing Marijuana all over the place, come to
    California
       if
         you want to get stoned! (I gave up that little distraction decades
       ago,
         but I also much prefer Ballard). :-D
         Dan
         On 2/1/2018 5:15 PM, Susan Sandman wrote:
            Stoning is medieval, appropriate only hundreds of years
    before...
            Susan
            On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 6:46 PM Tristan von Neumann
            <[1][6]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
              Do I get stoned by the community if I say that I like Ballard
         more
              anyway? :)
              Am 02.02.2018 um 00:36 schrieb Jean-Marie Poirier:
         En guise de conclusion ;-) :
         If you look at the chronological development of Ennemond's
         career
              and life, his "his high reputation" as a baroque lute super
         hero
              simply doesn't hold.
         So there must be other material around to explain this
         phenomenon.
         Cherbury is only one piece in the puzzle and certainly not
         the
              most interesting one concerning old Ennemond! There is a lot
         more to
              see and play in at least a dozen other ms. and of course his
              production in accords nouveaux is another essential aspect of
         the
              problem.
         Merci de votre intà ©rà ªt et la "chasse" continue... :-)!
         Best,
         Jean-Marie
         Le 1 fà ©vr. 2018 à  22:53, G. C. <[2][7]kalei...@gmail.com>
         a à ©crit
              :
            PS.
            And of course, I meant to say "you and Jean-Marie"
         SORRY! :D
            On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:27 PM, G. C.
              <[1][3][8]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:
                 Great that you feel that way, Ron. I'm just saying,
         that
              comparing to
                 what there is of real quality music for the lute
         out
              there, and
              trying
                 to keep in mind, the "high reputation" of Ennemond
              Gaultier, I'm
              sadly,
                 not at all impressed by these alleged simple
         courantes
              and voltas
              in
                 Cherbury.     Whatever his fame might otherwise be,
              these little
              pieces
                 just don't cut the mustard IMHO.
                 But if you, as a renowned player, recognise
         Ennemond's
              style in
              those
                 little ditties, I'm definitely not going to argue.
         :)
                 Best
                 G
                 On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 10:09 PM, Ron Andrico
              <[1][2][4][9]praelu...@hotmail.com>
                 wrote:
                      G, I think you may have misunderstood my
         message.
                I was
              not
                   saying
                      there were concordances in the CNRS edition of
              Vieux
              Gaultier
                   that
                      definitely linked pieces in Herbert to the
         proper
              Gaultier.
                 I
                   said
                      that one could easily identify the style of
         music
              in that
              edition
                   and
                      compare to the sparse style of the Herbert
         pieces
              attributed
              to
                      Gaultier.     From a player's point of view, I
         feel
              a very
              strong
                      similarity, and one only has to supply
         ornamented
              repeats in
              the
                   proper
                      style to flesh out the bones of these pieces
         and
              make some
              very
                   fine
                      music.
                      RA
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