Dear Alan, dear Jurgen, There is something to that effect in all 'oroginal' versions of Besard's instructions, that is: 1603 and 1617. I do not remember if ye text englished contains the passage...
Best Joachim Originalnachricht Von: Alain Veylit Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. März 2019 04:32 Antwort an: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Lute net Betreff: [LUTE] Re: right hand technique -- bending the pinky Jurgen, It's been a while and I was quoting from memory... but I am sure I saw it somewhere - perhaps the instructions translated in English in the Varietie of Lute Lessons? Or maybe the use of dots in Thesaurus Harmonicus ... Alain On 3/4/19 11:11 PM, Jurgen Frenz wrote: > It would be totally excellent if you'd find out where Besard made that > suggestion. > Thanks, > jurgen > > > ---------------------------------- > “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” > > Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐. > On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 10:40 AM, Alain Veylit <al...@musickshandmade.com> > wrote: > >> That's odd because I remember O'Dette's advice for the left-hand pinky: >> plant it vertically on the string instead of laying it flat - which >> requires more effort. That should mean his left-hand little finger can >> bend... Not a conclusive proof for the right hand little finger but ... >> For Renaissance lute, if I am not mistaken, the right-hand little finger >> is supposed to be parallel to the sound board, just lightly brushing on >> it, and it should remain extended. >> >> Anybody with a good explanation as to how additional basses would alter >> the right hand position? If I recall, Besard still argued for a mixed >> technique, thumb-under for fast runs and thumb over for whatever else >> (chords). I think it is logical that increasing dedication of the thumb >> to the bass strings does account for the shift in right-hand position, >> and when you think about it, it is not a small revolution in music >> history... >> >> On 3/4/19 7:12 PM, Richard Brook wrote: >> >>> Heard via the late great Pat OBrien Paul O’Dette couldn’t bend that finger >>> down by itself. Though I think Pat said in my case the fault was in my >>> head, not in the stars. >>> D ick Brook >>> >>>> On Mar 4, 2019, at 6:58 PM, Alain Veylit al...@musickshandmade.com wrote: >>>> Good one Rainer - Anybody remembers the title of that American series from >>>> the 60s-70s where aliens live among us in disguise, and the only sure way >>>> to identify them is that they cannot bend their little finger? >>>> Worth mentioning also about right-hand technique, Jimmy Hendrix playing >>>> with his teeth - frustrated leftie, you think? >>>> On 3/4/19 12:19 PM, Rainer wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 04.03.2019 17:11, Alain Veylit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And then, there is Django Reinhardt... one big exception to the rules of >>>>>> guitar playing. Experimenting with various techniques has probably >>>>>> always been a popular habit among musicians, whether by choice or force. >>>>> And Aguado used the 4th finger of the right hand. Perhaps he was an alien >>>>> :) >>>>> Rainer >>>>> To get on or off this list see list information at >>>>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >
