On 9/10/2014 1:33 AM, Russell Coker wrote:
> Filesystems are getting increasingly complex due to the increasing demands on 
> them.  It takes a lot more work to develop a filesystem than it used to.

That's fine, but they still need to be developed responsibly and without
the *problems* of 3.17 in recent times and other issues that get pushed
out too quickly or without proper testing.  It seems that the whole
development is suspect to me.

> I've had RAM problems on a system with 4G of RAM running not much apart from 
> Samba.  I don't think that zfsonlinux has changed much since then.

Forget Linux, FreeBSD with ZFS ... that's quite different, more stable
and with no RAM issues.

> ZFS just manages memory differently from anything that was developed for 
> Linux.  Changing that would require significant code changes which would be 
> another potential source of stability problems.

ZFS on Linux.  Unfortunately, the license issues are a problem with
Linux which leads to other issues, but not so with FreeBSD.

>> The way Debian is going, it is looking like a real option to switch to
>> FreeBSD with a very mature ZFS and to give up on Linux for some use
>> cases and possibly end up not even having to worry about systemd or
>> other things being pushed in to Debian by Red Hat people ever again.  I
>> am very sure that these issues will drive many AWAY from Linux in
>> general and Debian in particular!
> 
> Systemd wasn't pushed in to Debian by Red Hat or anyone else.  The Debian 
> technical committee decided that systemd was the best option.

I've read that it is Red Hat employees moonlighting, but that's not
first hand.  Still I think that the decision to go systemd is going to
do Debian a great deal of damage.

> After that decision there were a lot of threats and abuse by some people with 
> obvious mental health problems.  But such people don't matter when it comes 
> to 
> making a decision because they lack the intelligence or sanity to contribute 
> to Debian in any way.

Too many people are aggrieved by the change to be just your *bad* type
of people here.  There is no doubt in my mind that systemd and how it
has been handled by Debian is a complete disaster.

A.


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