On 9/10/2014 12:51 PM, Russell Coker wrote:
> Why don't you find some distribution that is going to stick with an older 
> init 
> system and contribute some code to it?

Perhaps I will move to FreeBSD someday, but in the meantime it seems
that it will be possible to run Jessie sans systemd ... so that will buy
me time.

> To make this clearer, if you aren't going to contribute then your comments on 
> mailing lists aren't of any use to anyone.  Lots of people want to tell 
> others 
> how to do things, but if they don't have the money to pay someone or the 
> skill 
> to do some work then it doesn't matter.

There are more ways to contribute, opinion is just one way and it should
be appreciated like any other type of contribution -- unless the opinion
is misplaced and not indicative of a reasonable number of users; given
that so many people share my opinion on systemd, then it sure is not
misplaced.  Those that support systemd are wiping their feet on sysvinit
and deciding that no opposing opinion matters, full stop.

systemd is a debacle, good luck making it workable for yourself and
others whom believe it is the /right/ way forward irregardless to
popular opinion of most users -- including the silenced [moderated
posts? thread] majority whom care like myself.

A.
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