Uwe Stöhr wrote: > So I'm still not happy that the option "using system colors" is now the > default. Many developers are currently in vacation - let's see what they > think about this.
while understanding JMarc point about inheriting system-wide colors, i'm more on Uwe's side to let by default the background as it was. inheritance would make some sense if there was some system system-wide color called 'background for reading' for which is clear that ergonomic(=!white) setting is generally used on the system and was properly thought about. imho the system-wide 'background' is used for semantically different things, thats why the problems. its absurd to mimic office behaviour when every dev around acknowledges that (implicit) white setting for longer sessions impair your eyes. but no hard opinions until users are able to keep their own color settings which they use for years (i became accustomed to terminals so much that even my lyx looks as the black-bg gray-fg session...), which leads me to the second discussed point: please be very gentle about removing colors just because in _your_ eyes they have only little meaning. over-abundance of options should be fought when the feature is introduced, having regression once you get accustomed to some feature is much more frustrating... as an example Uwe wants to kill graphics background color because he has no idea what it does, which is just irresponsible. in such case you need to associate it with one fixed color, so all my png images with alpha channel are going to have fixed background. if it merges with the foreground then what? if you choose the same background color as i have for text background so i dont see the border of the image(s) then what? moreover if you dont use your own styles its hard to imagine all the consequences of some colors settings. e.g. i'm not able to read branch-inset 'outdated' in customization manual because - well nobody got the idea that you can have black-bg grey-fg theme. the fg inside branch inset is set on grey and bg of branch inset is not document setting so all you see is nice grey rectangle :) for similar reasons i'm forced to keep my own version of stdinset.inc - some backgrounds can be cutomized and some foregrounds are fixed for 'foreground' which you again recognize only when custom theme is used... so please be very careful of the consequences. pavel
