On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Scott Kostyshak <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 03:40:48AM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Scott Kostyshak <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 07:04:27AM +0000, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> Thank you Liviu for this further explanation. I understand that LyX has a >> >> history of problems with clipoard managers. In the current case this seems >> >> triggered by a buggy version of gpaste, which causes also other problems. >> >> But fortunately, there is an easy solution, if gpaste is replaced by >> >> another clipboard manager. >> >> >> >> I will post this analysis also in the German ubuntuusers-forum, so maybe >> >> together we can find the underlying causes of these problems. >> >> >> >> Yours, Hermann Josef >> > >> > Note that the clipboard manager CopyQ works very well with LyX. >> > >> >> So does Clipman or Parcellite. Not sure how they interact with Gnome >> these days, though. > > I'm curious, when you retrieve an item in history, do they paste in > plain text? For example, make a LyX note, and copy some text and the LyX > note, then copy something else, then in Clipman/Parcellite retrieve the > previous item (the one with the LyX note) and paste. Does it paste the > LyX note? > If you specifically select an item in Clipman, then all you get is the note contents (i.e. plain text). Otherwise, simple copy/paste without accessing the clipboard's history results in the LyX Note being pasted. Is this different from CopyQ?
Liviu > Scott > >> >> Liviu >> >> >> > Scott >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:55:42 +0200 schrieb Liviu Andronic: >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:41 PM, Hermann Josef Eckl >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you, Scott and all here. >> >> >> >> >> >> I have tested now the situation on 4 computers and I can confirm, that >> >> >> the gpaste-extension for the GNOME Shell interferes with LyX, so that >> >> >> problems in selecting text occur. >> >> >> >> >> >> As soon as I remove gpaste LyX works normally. The gpaste extension >> >> >> consists of 4 packages: gpaste (this seems to be the gpaste-demon), >> >> >> gnome- >> >> >> shell-extensions-gpaste (the visible shell extension), >> >> >> gir1.2-gpaste-4.0, libgpaste4. I am not sure, whether it is the >> >> >> shell-extension, that causes the problems or the underlying >> >> >> gpaste-demon. >> >> >> >> >> >> It is still strange, that only LyX has those text-selection problems, >> >> >> whereas all other programs work normally together with gpaste. Also LyX >> >> >> worked fine prior to Ubuntu 16.04. In Debian 8.x gpaste has the version >> >> >> 3.14-2, in Ubuntu it has the version 3.18.3-1. >> >> >> >> >> >> Anyway gpaste causes some other strange problems in Ubuntu 16.04. The >> >> >> gpaste-demon seems to trigger an XORG-process which consumes extreme >> >> >> amounts of CPU-power. So I would give the advice that gpaste should not >> >> >> be used in Ubuntu 16.04; it can be replaced by Clipboard Indicator, >> >> >> which can be installed online via the GNOME extensions website. >> >> >> >> >> > If this can be of any consolation, I've noticed strange interactions >> >> > between LyX and clipboard managers in the past: >> >> > http://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/6780 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Though nothing as critical as you've experienced... >> >> > >> >> > Livu >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Thank you for all the help and best wishes, >> >> >> yours, Hermann Josef >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 17:58:35 -0400 schrieb Scott Kostyshak: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 09:08:16PM +0000, Hermann Josef Eckl wrote: >> >> >>>> Thank you very much, Jean-Marc. It seems, that you gave me an >> >> >>>> important hint for the solution of my problem. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I have installed the "gpaste"-extension for the GNOME Shell, which is >> >> >>>> provided as a package of Ubuntu 16.04. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> It seems that gpaste has some severe bugs. As soon as I remove it, >> >> >>>> the text selection problems in LyX are totally gone. It is a little >> >> >>>> bit strange, that this affects only LyX and no other programs. >> >> >>>> Therefore I never thought, that gpaste could be the cause of this >> >> >>>> problem. In Debian 8 gpaste works fine with LyX and generally all >> >> >>>> programs. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I will now test the situation on all of my four computers, where I >> >> >>>> have installed LyX / Ubuntu 16.04. If the removal of gpaste also >> >> >>>> clears the problems in LyX everywhere, then I think we have found the >> >> >>>> solution. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Thank you so much, with best wishes, >> >> >>>> Hermann Josef >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Good job figuring out the problem! First, it is not necessarily the >> >> >>> case that LyX is not to blame. LyX could be the problem, or gpaste >> >> >>> could be the problem, or other updates due to 16.04 could be the >> >> >>> problem. It is hard to say. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Hopefully you can make progress in identifying where the bug comes >> >> >>> from so that you can report it to the right place so that future users >> >> >>> won't have the same issue. I think that would take you a lot of time >> >> >>> though. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Best, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Scott >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> Am Thu, 09 Jun 2016 12:22:34 +0200 schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > Le 08/06/2016 à 09:06, Hermann J. Eckl a écrit : >> >> >>>> >> Currently I have installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - and am facing a very >> >> >>>> >> strange an annoying problem: I have difficulties to select longer >> >> >>>> >> or even shortes pieces of text with the keyboard or mouse. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > That seems very strange an annoying indeed. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> >> If I am trying to select some text, the selection captures only >> >> >>>> >> short passages and fails after some words or paragraphs, >> >> >>>> >> regardless of whether I am selecting with the mouse or with >> >> >>>> >> keyboard shortcuts. >> >> >>>> >> ALl other programmes (text editor, Libre Office etc.) are working >> >> >>>> >> correctly and I can select text withput any problems. >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > Do you run any utilisty related to clipboard (clipboard manager of >> >> >>>> > some sort)? >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > JMarc >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
