On 2/23/21 6:38 PM, AvantGuard Systems wrote:
Now, I'm wondering whether there's a way to transfer files from my
computer to the M100.....
Many ways.
How to decide which of the many ways depends on what your priorities
are, convenience or cost, and on what you have available for a modern
machine.
For instance one super convenient option is there is an Android app that
is both a TPDD server and TPDD client installer/bootstrapper. You don't
have to buy anything but the serial cable and usb adapter, but you
always need that anyway. But that's only super convenient if you happen
to have an Android phone or tablet. And I suppose only if moving files
to a phone instead of your real computer is good enough, maybe via
google drive.
The generally most convenient and robust way is a serial cable and a
TPDD emulator and a REX#.
Whatever other software or hardware you use, you pretty much always need
this cable:
http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Serial_Cable
Then there are several different things you can do that are all
different levels of convenient, reliable, binary-safe, expensive,
requiring special cables or parts or software, etc.
You can use just the plain built-in telcom app and teraterm-pro or putty
or really any serial comm program on the modern machine to transfer
plain text. This gets you text documents and *some* basic programs but
not all, maybe not all database/spreadsheet files either, definitely no
tokenized basic and no binary executables.
The advantage here is you don't have to buy anything but the serial
cable and usb-serial adapter, and don't have to somehow get software
installed onto the 100 the first time before you can start using it. But
it's limited and error-prone and inconvenient.
Better is to use a tpdd server on the modern machine and tpdd client on
the 100.
But that requires a few more pieces, for one thing, you need to get a
tpdd client onto the 100 somehow the first time. It's a chicken and egg
problem. If you already had an easy way to transfer files to transfer
the tpdd client program, then what do you need the tpdd client program
for? If you need the tpdd client program to transfer files, then how do
you transfer the tpdd client program itself before it's installed?
In the old days the answer was you bought the client program in the form
of a ROM chip you plugged in to the option rom socket, or you loaded it
from cassette tape.
Today neither of those is all that practical. They are both still
possible. There is an mp3 of the cassette file for TS-DOS (at least for
model 100/102, not all the others). So IF you had the cassette cable you
could do that. You could build yourself a TS-DOS option rom. There are
plans and links to parts to make a totally neat little module, but it's
kind of ridiculous amount of parts and labor and tools needed for what
you get in the end. (I can say that since it's mine)
http://tandy.wiki/Teeprom
The MOST convenient way to get a tpdd client onto the 100 is to buy a
REX# and just pop it in. That gets you TS-DOS in ROM, as well as a whole
option rom library and memory backup device on-board. And that allows
you to use any tpdd server on the modern machine. The 3 main ones right
now are mComm, LaddieAlpha, and dlplus.
http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REXsharp
If you don't have or don't want to buy a REX# (or build your own REX
classic or Teeprom), the next-most convenient is to use a tpdd server
that includes a bootstrapper that can install a tpdd client app onto the
100 whenever you need to, using the same serial connection that you need
anyway to use the tpdd client and server. mComm and dlplus include a
bootstrapper.
And it depends what platform the modern machine is.
For Android or Windows, there is mComm.
http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum
For Linux or Mac, there is dlplus.
https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus
There is also a python version of mComm which you could run on almost
anything, but that requires a little more fiddling.
In fact I still haven't covered everything but these are the most
practical options today.
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bkw
Curtis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM AvantGuard Systems
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Steve,
Thanks for the response! I've figured it all out finally. Just trial
and error until something worked. I just posted the Wifi card I'm
using, but again it's: https://is.gd/2QfZNy <https://is.gd/2QfZNy>
And there's info also at: https://github.com/8bit-bruno/WiFiModem
<https://github.com/8bit-bruno/WiFiModem>
Curtis
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:57 PM Steve Baker <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Greetings Curtis!
What type of RS232 modem do you use with the KayPro? Just
curious as I love retro-tech and am always looking to try out
new gear and fun stuff!
Re: connecting to BBSs, Telnet sites, FTP sites, etc. using the
M100, one trick is to ensure the baud rate is the same on the
Model T and the RS232-WiFi card in the Term program. There’s no
special dial code and it doesn’t know about the address book (I
wrote down my favorite BBSs, Telnet, FTP, etc.).
Basically just use the “atdt host.domain:port” command and it’ll
connect you through techno-magic. I did recently make a quick
video that does happen to show me connecting to one Telnet site
using my Tandy 102, if this is of any help. Again, your mileage
might vary depending on the gadget you’re using.
https://youtu.be/m_IKzoesVG4 <https://youtu.be/m_IKzoesVG4>
Hope this helps, and happy to offer whatever experience and/or
thoughts that I might have to help!
SB
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Greetings from Steve Baker
“Gravity brings me down…”
On Feb 23, 2021, at 4:25 PM, AvantGuard Systems
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Really need to start saving my searches... anyhow, I know I
somewhere saw information about using a wifi modem on the
RS232 jack for network access.
I have a wifi RS232 modem for my KayPro so I thought I'd try
it on the M100. Any ideas about how to go about sending the
right dial code (I assume from the address book) to maybe make
it work? Or am I just going about this all wrong....
Curtis
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bkw
