if you want to use rj45 -> db25 hoods, you should check out a cable like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078PT5N24 which will just plug into an android device with usb c port and give you a rj45 end to plug into --francois
On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 3:51 PM AvantGuard Systems < [email protected]> wrote: > Now it makes sense why there's 20 on here: > 7 Wire Cable > PC Model-T > DCD 1 NC > RX 2 ← 2 TX > TX 3 → 3 RX > DTR 4 → 6 DSR > GND 5 ↔ 7 GND > DSR 6 ← 20 DTR > RTS 7 → 5 CTS > CTS 8 ← 4 RTS > RI 9 NC > > So I only use 7 of the 8 wires..... I guess I can just punch down the > wires onto a DB25 adapter and see what happens? > > Curtis > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 12:43 PM AvantGuard Systems < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Now I'm re-reading the Club100 instructions and it looks like I have to >> use the RS232 jack. That really changes things..... >> The instructions say the best solution is to solder the wires to the DB25 >> connector. Where? The pin out makes no sense to me. >> >> >> Curtis >> >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2021 at 11:45 AM AvantGuard Systems < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> OK, so it seems like the easiest thing for me to try for now is using an >>> Android device, which I have plenty of. I've installed the mcomm program >>> from Club100's website. Now I just have to figure out the proper pin out >>> for a DB9 cable. Let me explain. >>> I have a Cisco DB9 to RJ45 cord. >>> The pin out is explained here: >>> https://allpinouts.org/pinouts/cables/serial/cisco-console-rj45-to-db9-pin/ >>> When I look at the instructions on Club100 it looks like only pins 2-8 >>> are used. >>> >>> HOWEVER! I'm no electrician, but I tested each pin for the DB9 to RJ45 >>> and here's how they came out. First item is the DB9 pin and the second the >>> RJ45 from the top (the side without the clip). >>> >>> 1 > 2 >>> 2 nowhere >>> 3 > 6 >>> 4 > 7 >>> 5 > 4 >>> 6 > 2 >>> 7 > 8 >>> 8 > 1 >>> 9 nowhere >>> >>> Looking at various Cisco charts however, it seems to me that I'm reading >>> things completely wrong. That the RJ45 should be read not from left to >>> right, but the other way. And this lines up more with various Cisco docs. >>> So that get us: >>> >>> 1 > 7 >>> 2 nowhere >>> 3 > 3 >>> 4 > 2 >>> 5 > 5 >>> 6 > 7 >>> 7 > 1 >>> 8 > 8 >>> 9 nowhere >>> >>> My question is what is the right pin out as I could rewire however I >>> want easily. Cut off the old jack and put in a new one. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Curtis >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 4:58 PM Brian K. White <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2/23/21 6:38 PM, AvantGuard Systems wrote: >>>> > Now, I'm wondering whether there's a way to transfer files from my >>>> > computer to the M100..... >>>> >>>> Many ways. >>>> >>>> How to decide which of the many ways depends on what your priorities >>>> are, convenience or cost, and on what you have available for a modern >>>> machine. >>>> >>>> For instance one super convenient option is there is an Android app >>>> that >>>> is both a TPDD server and TPDD client installer/bootstrapper. You don't >>>> have to buy anything but the serial cable and usb adapter, but you >>>> always need that anyway. But that's only super convenient if you happen >>>> to have an Android phone or tablet. And I suppose only if moving files >>>> to a phone instead of your real computer is good enough, maybe via >>>> google drive. >>>> >>>> The generally most convenient and robust way is a serial cable and a >>>> TPDD emulator and a REX#. >>>> >>>> Whatever other software or hardware you use, you pretty much always >>>> need >>>> this cable: >>>> http://tandy.wiki/Model_T_Serial_Cable >>>> >>>> Then there are several different things you can do that are all >>>> different levels of convenient, reliable, binary-safe, expensive, >>>> requiring special cables or parts or software, etc. >>>> >>>> You can use just the plain built-in telcom app and teraterm-pro or >>>> putty >>>> or really any serial comm program on the modern machine to transfer >>>> plain text. This gets you text documents and *some* basic programs but >>>> not all, maybe not all database/spreadsheet files either, definitely no >>>> tokenized basic and no binary executables. >>>> The advantage here is you don't have to buy anything but the serial >>>> cable and usb-serial adapter, and don't have to somehow get software >>>> installed onto the 100 the first time before you can start using it. >>>> But >>>> it's limited and error-prone and inconvenient. >>>> >>>> Better is to use a tpdd server on the modern machine and tpdd client on >>>> the 100. >>>> >>>> But that requires a few more pieces, for one thing, you need to get a >>>> tpdd client onto the 100 somehow the first time. It's a chicken and egg >>>> problem. If you already had an easy way to transfer files to transfer >>>> the tpdd client program, then what do you need the tpdd client program >>>> for? If you need the tpdd client program to transfer files, then how do >>>> you transfer the tpdd client program itself before it's installed? >>>> >>>> In the old days the answer was you bought the client program in the >>>> form >>>> of a ROM chip you plugged in to the option rom socket, or you loaded it >>>> from cassette tape. >>>> >>>> Today neither of those is all that practical. They are both still >>>> possible. There is an mp3 of the cassette file for TS-DOS (at least for >>>> model 100/102, not all the others). So IF you had the cassette cable >>>> you >>>> could do that. You could build yourself a TS-DOS option rom. There are >>>> plans and links to parts to make a totally neat little module, but it's >>>> kind of ridiculous amount of parts and labor and tools needed for what >>>> you get in the end. (I can say that since it's mine) >>>> http://tandy.wiki/Teeprom >>>> >>>> The MOST convenient way to get a tpdd client onto the 100 is to buy a >>>> REX# and just pop it in. That gets you TS-DOS in ROM, as well as a >>>> whole >>>> option rom library and memory backup device on-board. And that allows >>>> you to use any tpdd server on the modern machine. The 3 main ones right >>>> now are mComm, LaddieAlpha, and dlplus. >>>> http://bitchin100.com/wiki/index.php?title=REXsharp >>>> >>>> If you don't have or don't want to buy a REX# (or build your own REX >>>> classic or Teeprom), the next-most convenient is to use a tpdd server >>>> that includes a bootstrapper that can install a tpdd client app onto >>>> the >>>> 100 whenever you need to, using the same serial connection that you >>>> need >>>> anyway to use the tpdd client and server. mComm and dlplus include a >>>> bootstrapper. >>>> >>>> And it depends what platform the modern machine is. >>>> For Android or Windows, there is mComm. >>>> >>>> http://www.club100.org/memfiles/index.php?&direction=0&order=&directory=Kurt%20McCullum >>>> >>>> For Linux or Mac, there is dlplus. >>>> https://github.com/bkw777/dlplus >>>> >>>> There is also a python version of mComm which you could run on almost >>>> anything, but that requires a little more fiddling. >>>> >>>> In fact I still haven't covered everything but these are the most >>>> practical options today. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> bkw >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Curtis >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM AvantGuard Systems >>>> > <[email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Steve, >>>> > Thanks for the response! I've figured it all out finally. Just >>>> trial >>>> > and error until something worked. I just posted the Wifi card I'm >>>> > using, but again it's: https://is.gd/2QfZNy <https://is.gd/2QfZNy >>>> > >>>> > And there's info also at: https://github.com/8bit-bruno/WiFiModem >>>> > <https://github.com/8bit-bruno/WiFiModem> >>>> > >>>> > Curtis >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:57 PM Steve Baker < >>>> [email protected] >>>> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Greetings Curtis! >>>> > >>>> > What type of RS232 modem do you use with the KayPro? Just >>>> > curious as I love retro-tech and am always looking to try out >>>> > new gear and fun stuff! >>>> > >>>> > Re: connecting to BBSs, Telnet sites, FTP sites, etc. using >>>> the >>>> > M100, one trick is to ensure the baud rate is the same on the >>>> > Model T and the RS232-WiFi card in the Term program. There’s >>>> no >>>> > special dial code and it doesn’t know about the address book >>>> (I >>>> > wrote down my favorite BBSs, Telnet, FTP, etc.). >>>> > >>>> > Basically just use the “atdt host.domain:port” command and >>>> it’ll >>>> > connect you through techno-magic. I did recently make a quick >>>> > video that does happen to show me connecting to one Telnet >>>> site >>>> > using my Tandy 102, if this is of any help. Again, your >>>> mileage >>>> > might vary depending on the gadget you’re using. >>>> > >>>> > https://youtu.be/m_IKzoesVG4 <https://youtu.be/m_IKzoesVG4> >>>> > >>>> > Hope this helps, and happy to offer whatever experience and/or >>>> > thoughts that I might have to help! >>>> > SB >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Greetings from Steve Baker >>>> > “Gravity brings me down…” >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> On Feb 23, 2021, at 4:25 PM, AvantGuard Systems >>>> >> <[email protected] >>>> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Really need to start saving my searches... anyhow, I know I >>>> >> somewhere saw information about using a wifi modem on the >>>> >> RS232 jack for network access. >>>> >> I have a wifi RS232 modem for my KayPro so I thought I'd try >>>> >> it on the M100. Any ideas about how to go about sending the >>>> >> right dial code (I assume from the address book) to maybe >>>> make >>>> >> it work? Or am I just going about this all wrong.... >>>> >> >>>> >> Curtis >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> bkw >>>> >>>
