Lori just wondering what settings you have because I use to access mail this way and no longer can. Thanks. Lovette
On 2012-01-28, at 2:39 PM, Laurie Mehta wrote: > Hi, > Please know that I am very new to using my Mac and mail on it. But, here's > what I am doing to read my mail. > > I open the mail program and simply use the arrow keys to move through the > mailboxes (actually, I often use a letter key to skip directly to a mailbox > pressing the letter that is the first letter in that box's name). > I also use just the arrow keys to move up and down the list of messages, > hitting return to open a message. > I use delete to delete a message either before or after opening it. > > The only time that I am using the VO keys to navigate within mail is to move > left or right from column to column (from mailbox to the list of messages in > it, for example). In that case, I use VO plus either right or left arrow. > > Using this method, I'm able to hear the indication of unread, you replied to > this message, etc. for each message in the list for a mailbox. > > I tried out this method inspired by the advice of a friend who suggested that > sometimes using Apple keyboard commands is easier than using specific VO > commands. > > I hope that this is helpful, but I look forward to hearing from others who > know more than I do about this. :-) > > One thing that I have wondered is if there is a quick way to go from the > bottom of a list of messages back up to the top? > > Thanks, > Laurie M. (and, thank you, list owners, for this great list) > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: > > I just figured out what is going on. If I turn VoiceOver curser tracking off > with VO+Shift+F3, I can then move up and down the list and if any unread > messages are present, I will then hear the "Unread" spoken. I'm convinced > now that Mail marks the currently select message as read even before we Jump > to it with VO+j key. Still learning how to get the most of these Mac apps. > Another example of these flags is when you reply to someone, the "Replied" > flag shows up and that doesn't go away when scrolling down the list. These > images must have been pre-labeled for use with VoiceOver. > > On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> The image is the unread thing except it won't say it. it will just be there >> and be gone. in threaded and unthreaded convos. >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the quick reply. I don't quite catch what you mean by the >>> image. When I come into the message list, I never hear "Unread" for any >>> single unthreaded messages. Is this possibly caused by Mail marking the >>> thing as Unread as soon as it is selected by highlighting on the list? I >>> really like being to identify read and unread messages while scrolling up >>> and down the list like in other mailers. >>> >>> Thanks again for the help to this Mac newbie. >>> >>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> >>>> Nope. because when the image goes away I know it's been read. >>>> >>>> Take care. >>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> When interacting with the list of messages in a given mail box, I can't >>>>> tell when they are read or unread. I hear "Unread" on collapsed threads >>>>> but nothing on any other expanded or unthreaded subjects. 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