Lori just wondering what settings you have because I use to access mail this 
way and no longer can.
Thanks.
Lovette

On 2012-01-28, at 2:39 PM, Laurie Mehta wrote:

> Hi, 
> Please know that I am very new to using my Mac and mail on it. But, here's 
> what I am doing to read my mail. 
> 
> I open the mail program and simply use the arrow keys to move through the 
> mailboxes (actually, I often use a letter key to skip directly to a mailbox 
> pressing the letter that is the first letter in that box's name). 
> I also use just the arrow keys to move up and down the list of messages, 
> hitting return to open a message. 
> I use delete to delete a message either before or after opening it. 
> 
> The only time that I am using the VO keys to navigate within mail is to move 
> left or right from column to column (from mailbox to the list of messages in 
> it, for example). In that case, I use VO plus either right or left arrow. 
> 
> Using this method, I'm able to hear the indication of unread, you replied to 
> this message, etc. for each message in the list for a mailbox. 
> 
> I tried out this method inspired by the advice of a friend who suggested that 
> sometimes using Apple keyboard commands is easier than using specific VO 
> commands. 
> 
> I hope that this is helpful, but I look forward to hearing from others who 
> know more than I do about this. :-) 
> 
> One thing that I have wondered is if there is a quick way to go from the 
> bottom of a list of messages back up to the top? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> Laurie M. (and, thank you, list owners, for this great list)
> 
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
> I just figured out what is going on.  If I turn VoiceOver curser tracking off 
> with VO+Shift+F3, I can then move up and down the list and if any unread 
> messages are present, I will then hear the "Unread" spoken.  I'm convinced 
> now that Mail marks the currently select message as read even before we Jump 
> to it with VO+j key.  Still learning how to get the most of these Mac apps.  
> Another example of these flags is when you reply to someone, the "Replied" 
> flag shows up and that doesn't go away when scrolling down the list.  These 
> images must have been pre-labeled for use with VoiceOver.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
> 
>> The image is the unread  thing except it won't say it. it will just be there 
>> and be gone. in threaded and unthreaded convos.
>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the quick reply.  I don't quite catch what you mean by the 
>>> image.  When I come into the message list, I never hear "Unread" for any 
>>> single unthreaded messages.  Is this possibly caused by Mail marking the 
>>> thing as Unread as soon as it is selected by highlighting on the list? I 
>>> really like being to identify read and unread messages while scrolling up 
>>> and down the list like in other mailers.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again for the help to this Mac newbie.
>>> 
>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nope. because when the image goes away I know it's been read.
>>>> 
>>>> Take care.
>>>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> When interacting with the list of messages in a given mail box, I can't 
>>>>> tell when they are read or unread.  I hear "Unread" on collapsed threads 
>>>>> but nothing on any other expanded or unthreaded subjects.  Does anyone 
>>>>> else experience this? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm using latest version of Lion.
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