Another way of moving from an email that you are on in the message table to read it is pressing VO J (control options J). Then you can use your navigation keys to read the email. Then press VO J to go back to the message table. Another hint is to go to the top of all of the emails is pressing shift, function, VO left arrow and to go to the bottom of the emails is to press shift function VO right arrow. To create a new email press command N and then fill out the fields. To move through the fields I press VO right arrow and once you have finished the email press shift command D and this will send the email.
Margaret Margaret -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Laurie Mehta Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2012 9:40 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Apple Mail on a Mac Concerning Message List Hi, Please know that I am very new to using my Mac and mail on it. But, here's what I am doing to read my mail. I open the mail program and simply use the arrow keys to move through the mailboxes (actually, I often use a letter key to skip directly to a mailbox pressing the letter that is the first letter in that box's name). I also use just the arrow keys to move up and down the list of messages, hitting return to open a message. I use delete to delete a message either before or after opening it. The only time that I am using the VO keys to navigate within mail is to move left or right from column to column (from mailbox to the list of messages in it, for example). In that case, I use VO plus either right or left arrow. Using this method, I'm able to hear the indication of unread, you replied to this message, etc. for each message in the list for a mailbox. I tried out this method inspired by the advice of a friend who suggested that sometimes using Apple keyboard commands is easier than using specific VO commands. I hope that this is helpful, but I look forward to hearing from others who know more than I do about this. :-) One thing that I have wondered is if there is a quick way to go from the bottom of a list of messages back up to the top? Thanks, Laurie M. (and, thank you, list owners, for this great list) On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:09 PM, Steve Holmes wrote: I just figured out what is going on. If I turn VoiceOver curser tracking off with VO+Shift+F3, I can then move up and down the list and if any unread messages are present, I will then hear the "Unread" spoken. I'm convinced now that Mail marks the currently select message as read even before we Jump to it with VO+j key. Still learning how to get the most of these Mac apps. Another example of these flags is when you reply to someone, the "Replied" flag shows up and that doesn't go away when scrolling down the list. These images must have been pre-labeled for use with VoiceOver. On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > The image is the unread thing except it won't say it. it will just be there and be gone. in threaded and unthreaded convos. > On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: > >> Thanks for the quick reply. I don't quite catch what you mean by the image. When I come into the message list, I never hear "Unread" for any single unthreaded messages. Is this possibly caused by Mail marking the thing as Unread as soon as it is selected by highlighting on the list? I really like being to identify read and unread messages while scrolling up and down the list like in other mailers. >> >> Thanks again for the help to this Mac newbie. >> >> On Jan 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Nope. because when the image goes away I know it's been read. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Jan 28, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Steve Holmes wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> When interacting with the list of messages in a given mail box, I can't tell when they are read or unread. I hear "Unread" on collapsed threads but nothing on any other expanded or unthreaded subjects. 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