That's the same shot in the dark I've got too. Your Safari is fine (I didn't think to check you were on 10.3 :)), and I'm not sure exactly what is wrong, but seems likely it's a problem with the <object> tag in their html.
I've not messed with applets in 1.4, so unsure exactly what they've done to the <object> tag, but the existent of the jpi- bit is odd enough to imply something has changed. All previous versions didn't have that. Also throw in the fact that Windows dominates, so despite the Sun/MS legal issues (now finished, MS bought Sun off with a lot of cash), Windows Java, by Sun, is actually the best for this kind of thing. Irritating :) Hen On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, Jerry Yeager wrote: > I will have to take a shot in the dark here. > > Probably Henri or one of the others can correct me if I am wrong on > parts (or all) of this, but I am remembering that Java for Cocoa is for > apps that you download to your desktop and run (they use Java code). > The other Java stuff is for internet gizmos that run in your browser. > The windoze approach to Java is of course different (M$ and Sun keep > battling in and out of court on this one) and the thing that you > download for windoze IE is handled differently than for other platforms > because of the way M$ uses IE to run its operating system. So the > sloppy 1.4.2 version check would work in windoze and no where else > (complaints for the rest of the Java using world that Henri noted). > > Jerry > > On Jul 07, 2004, at 5:20 PM, John Robinson wrote: > > > Hen, > > > > You are right, I did type it wrong, and it should be an = instead of a > > +. I also bet this is an older version. The site will work with > > Internet Explorer on the Windows side, with a plugin from Microsoft, > > but so far we can't get it to work with Sun. > > > > Jerry, > > > > Possibly you have hit on it. I ran the list as you suggested, the > > first is Shockwave Flash, then Shockwave for Director. Then the Java > > Plug-in says it is 1.3.1 (CFM), then another Java Plug-in that is > > 1.3.1, and finally a Java for Cocoa plug-in that is 1.4.2. > > > > Then there is a long list of QuickTime plug-in's. (I have QuickTime > > 6.5.1 Pro installed) > > > > I can't send an attachment showing the list, hopefully this will help. > > Do the Java 1.3.1's make this the problem, or since I have the 1.4.2 > > why does the dialogue box say I need it? > > > > I downloaded the 1.4.2 drivers directly from Sun and installed them > > when we were trying to troubleshoot this a couple weeks ago. > > > > Any suggestions would really be appreciated, and I thank you both for > > your replies. > > > > John R. > > > > > > On Jul 7, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Henri Yandell wrote: > > > >> > >> Unsure exactly. The + is very odd in there as googling I nearly > >> always see > >> something like: > >> > >> application/x-java-applet;jpi-version=1.4.2 > >> > >> Could you have typo'd that? + does sometimes mean > 1.4.2, so it > >> could be > >> something they've done (or they could have typo'd it). > >> > >> Quite possibly their applet-html is out of date. To put an applet in a > >> webpage, Java developers have had to use increasingly cryptic > >> incantations > >> and it seems that an older incantation no longer works with the > >> jpi-version or something. Googling, I can see various complaints from > >> the > >> Linux-Mozilla users. > >> > >> Another possibility is that OS X doesn't pick up 1.4.2 but only > >> 1.4.2_03 > >> or something silly. These are the kinds of reasons I steer clear of > >> applet > >> jobs :) Painful world. > >> > >> Hen > >> > >> On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, John Robinson wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> I previously sent this out with a snapshot of the screen, but since I > >>> didn't get a copy I am assuming the server won't accept attachments. > >>> At the bottom the note I sent before I will type what the Safari > >>> Dialogue said. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Friends, > >>> > >>> > >>> I am attaching a screenshot of what I get when I try to log onto a > >>> site > >>> I really need. This site is written with Microsoft Java (UGH), but > >>> supposedly they have a version for Sun Java, but even though I have > >>> talked to several of their tech. people they don't know why this > >>> doesn't work. > >>> > >>> When I use Internet Explorer, Netscape, or others I don't get the > >>> dialogue box as you see here with Safari, but the site doesn't work. > >>> > >>> I have tired using the debugging feature in Safari, and trying to > >>> mimic > >>> a PC, but that also doesn't work. > >>> > >>> Anyone know what the problem might be? > >>> > >>> I sure appreciate the help. > >>> > >>> John Robinson > >>> > >>> > >>> This is the dialogue: > >>> > >>> "Safari cannot find the Internet plug-in. > >>> > >>> The page ""has content of MIME type > >>> "application/x-java-applet;jpi-version+1.4.2. Because you don't > >>> have a > >>> plug-in installed for this MIME type, this content can't be > >>> displayed" > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > >> | be July 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > >> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > >> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> > >> > > > > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > > | be July 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > > | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > > | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> > > > > > ----------------------------------- > Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if > I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > | be July 27. 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