Jerry Yeager wrote:

>
> On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 02:55  AM, Tony LaFemina wrote:
>
> (portions cut out)
>
>> In order to correctly monitor a fluid level, there has to be some 
>> kind of system that can sense the height of the fluid in the 
>> cartridge. Otherwise it's purely guesswork. If they do have an 
>> accurate system that can monitor the ink level, then it shouldn't 
>> matter if the cartridge is removed from the printer or not. Once it's 
>> installed, it should send the printer accurate readings. But Bill 
>> said Epson advised against this, which tells me their system is based 
>> on time. When a cartridge is installed into the printer, an 
>> electronic pulse initializes the timer for each color. When a color 
>> is called upon, the timer for that color is started, and stopped when 
>> the cartridge stops emitting the color. Since they know how much ink 
>> is in a new cartridge, they know how much time it will take to empty 
>> it. However, if the cartridge is removed, the timers should reset 
>> when you put it back giving erroneous data. This method should always 
>> say there's more ink than there actually is. If the system says 
>> there's less or no ink in the cartridge, then I call it spitework and 
>> it verifies what I said about big business not caring about the 
>> environment.
>>
>
> If you read some of the earlier posts, this was explained, but I'll 
> repeat part of it again. Epson electrostatically charges the cartridge 
> when it is inserted. Removing the cartridge and then putting it back 
> wastes ink. Add to that the fact that in early OS-X, printers drivers 
> in general were iffy (for all manufacturers, not just for Epson), and 
> thus remaining ink levels on a re-inserted cartridge were not always 
> reported correctly and you get the advice that Epson that gives out. 
> The situation is vastly improved, and gets better with each update to 
> OS-X, but still is not completely worked out yet. For example if you 
> have certain new HP printers (which can give decent prints) then you 
> are better off using Gimp-print than the native HP drivers, because 
> the HP drivers still have bugs in them which cause them to take over 
> most of the cpu effectively disabling the computer (Still happens even 
> in 10.2.3 Apple and HP are still working on it). The latest update to 
> OS-X went a long way to fixing this, but it is still happening to many 
> people.
>
> Back onto the smart chips: all of the manufacturers use them in the 
> new printers. In the older ones they are not there. My guess is that 
> they will stay, but be changed to allow refilling.
>
>                     Jerry

I have no idea what electrostatically charging a cartridge is going to 
do for reading ink levels. I do know it makes your hair stand up, and 
gives you one hell of a shock when you go for the door knob, but I'm in 
the dark on this one. I don't know  who came up with this stuff, but it 
sounds to me like a tech writer got snowed by some engineers. When I 
eventually buy one of these new printers, I guess I'll have to start 
reading all about them like you guys did. Maybe then, we could continue 
this conversation.

Until then, I want to wish everyone a Happy New Year. May it bring back 
the Mac!

-- 
Tony LaFemina
Major in Layout & Design Techniques
Minor in Software Fundamentals
http://hometown.aol.com/visitmacland/index.html
mailto:remacs at optonline.net





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