Hey Greg,

You have had a couple of problems that don't impact the majority of  
users.  Sorry!

Kernel panics are primarily caused by hardware problems  
(incompatibilities), not software.  However, a badly corrupted system  
can cause them as well - just not the primary cause.

Likely sources of your problems could be incompatible pci cards,  
scanners and digital camera card readers to name a few.  So look  
towards third party hardware you have inside the box, and outside as  
well.

Ward

Ward Oldham, MacDude
MacTown
1041 Bardstown Road
Louisville, KY  40204
502-485-1243
ward at mactown.us
http://www.mactown.us

On May 11, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Greg Schoettmer wrote:

> Marta,
>     I'm not sure about all of the rest of your questions but I can  
> answer
> "...what does this panic....remind you of..."
>
> It reminds me of a PC! That's where the phrase "blue screen of  
> death" is
> used routinely. I hope Apple isn't satisfied with a system that  
> proceeds
> down this path. One of the strongest reasons to buy a Mac is  
> because of its
> stability.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On 5/11/05 8:00 PM, "Marta Edie" <martaedie at mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Soince you are talking kernel panic., I had one of those not long ago
>> after making a disk image and then while trying to play it , it  
>> did me
>> the same thing, blue screen of death. I followed the instructions and
>> things went ok. then I tried that disk image again, the same thing. I
>> still have not solved this disk image mystery, but how serious is a
>> kernel panic,  what kind of things will bring this about? What if you
>> cannot start the machine again, why all those different languages,  
>> what
>> does this panic tell you, remind you of,  tries to convey?  Is it  
>> like
>> a heart attack or a stroke, meaning it may or may not leave permanent
>> damage, and if it does damage,how does one know?
>> Marta
>> The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in  
>> higher
>> esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
>> -Friedrich
>> Nietzsche, philosopher
>> On May 11, 2005, at 19:22, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You've just experienced a "kernel panic."
>>>
>>> Sometimes if you just follow those instructions ... hold down the
>>> power button for several seconds to shut down your computer ... and
>>> then start it up again, the problem will go away.
>>>
>>> If not, run Disk Utility, repair permissions, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Help! Now I'm having a problem. When I try to shut my computer  
>>>> down,
>>>> it
>>>> begins the shutdown sequence, I get the deep blue screen that I
>>>> always get
>>>> and then a darker  (navy blue) square (not a normal window) pops up
>>>> in the
>>>> middle of the screen and it says;
>>>>
>>>> "You need to restart your computer. Hold the power button down for
>>>> several
>>>> seconds or press the restart button."
>>>>
>>>> The window then what looks like the same message in several  
>>>> languages
>>>> underneath it.
>>>>
>>>> I'm running Tiger......
>>>>
>>>>
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