Ward,
     I have absolutely NOTHING attached to my Mac. Not even a printer. Not a
wireless network card. Nada! I pulled out the Mac book last night and it
gave me the same explanation that you have. Unfortunately it?s having a
kernel fit every time I try to shut down.  I?ve only had this computer a
couple of months so I?m going to call Apple tonight and see what?s up.



On 5/11/05 10:32 PM, "Ward Oldham" <woldham at insightbb.com> wrote:

> Hey Greg,
> 
> You have had a couple of problems that don't impact the majority of users.?
> Sorry!
> 
> Kernel panics are primarily caused by hardware problems (incompatibilities),
> not software.? However, a badly corrupted system can cause them as well - just
> not the primary cause.
> 
> Likely sources of your problems could be incompatible pci cards, scanners and
> digital camera card readers to name a few.? So look towards third party
> hardware you have inside the box, and outside as well.
> 
> Ward
> 
>  
> 
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> 
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>  
> 
> On May 11, 2005, at 10:17 PM, Greg Schoettmer wrote:
> 
>> Marta,
>> ? ? I'm not sure about all of the rest of your questions but I can answer
>> "...what does this panic....remind you of..."
>> 
>> It reminds me of a PC! That's where the phrase "blue screen of death" is
>> used routinely. I hope Apple isn't satisfied with a system that proceeds
>> down this path. One of the strongest reasons to buy a Mac is because of its
>> stability.?
>> 
>> Greg
>> 
>> 
>> On 5/11/05 8:00 PM, "Marta Edie" <martaedie at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>>> Soince you are talking kernel panic., I had one of those not long ago
>>> after making a disk image and then while trying to play it , it did me
>>> the same thing, blue screen of death. I followed the instructions and
>>> things went ok. then I tried that disk image again, the same thing. I
>>> still have not solved this disk image mystery, but how serious is a
>>> kernel panic,? what kind of things will bring this about? What if you
>>> cannot start the machine again, why all those different languages, what
>>> does this panic tell you, remind you of,? tries to convey?? Is it like
>>> a heart attack or a stroke, meaning it may or may not leave permanent
>>> damage, and if it does damage,how does one know?
>>> Marta
>>> The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher
>>> esteem those who think alike than those who think differently.
>>> -Friedrich
>>> Nietzsche, philosopher
>>> On May 11, 2005, at 19:22, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>>> 
>>>  
>>>> You've just experienced a "kernel panic."
>>>> 
>>>> Sometimes if you just follow those instructions ... hold down the
>>>> power button for several seconds to shut down your computer ... and
>>>> then start it up again, the problem will go away.
>>>> 
>>>> If not, run Disk Utility, repair permissions, etc.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> Help! Now I'm having a problem. When I try to shut my computer down,
>>>>> it
>>>>> begins the shutdown sequence, I get the deep blue screen that I
>>>>> always get
>>>>> and then a darker? (navy blue) square (not a normal window) pops up
>>>>> in the
>>>>> middle of the screen and it says;
>>>>> 
>>>>> "You need to restart your computer. Hold the power button down for
>>>>> several
>>>>> seconds or press the restart button."
>>>>> 
>>>>> The window then what looks like the same message in several languages
>>>>> underneath it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm running Tiger......
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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