I think the switch to Intel is going to happen.  Stephen Shankland is reporting 
it on News.com and he's pretty hooked in to these kinds of things:

http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5731398.html

The open question is whether we're talking actual PC's (i.e., Intel chips, a 
compatible BIOS, etc.) or just Intel as the CPU with custom Apple stuff wrapped 
around.  I'm hoping for the former because, as you say, it opens up the 
possibility of running OS X on cheaply available PC hardware. 

And cheaper laptops, which is where I think it could really be killer.  If 
you've ever run XP on na Intel laptop you know it's okay but the suspend/awake 
feature is nowhere near as smooth and bulletproof as OS X.  I'd love to be able 
to marry the $700 PC laptops out there with OS X as the operating system.

--- Rex.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Bill Holt
Sent: Sat 6/4/2005 10:46 PM
To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: MacGroup: Apple Intel rumors
 
Personally, I think the so-called experts who are predicting the change  
to Intel chips are full of it.  As you note, there is a clear  
performance disadvantage.  However, it would not surprise me to learn  
that Apple is finally going to (or is exploring) market the OS to the  
Intel crowd.  After all, it looks like it's going to be a year or more  
until the next time M$ can make it's BS claim to have caught up.  The  
features that M$ is promising are available now, in OSX.  Perhaps the  
conversations are about how to key the OS to one machine.

Frankly, I think this is way overdue and a potential source of more  
profit than Apple generates from selling computers.  Imagine the market  
... a relatively cheap Intel machine loaded with OSX and preloaded with  
open source software sufficient to eliminate the need for M$ Office.

   Bill Holt

On Saturday, June 4, 2005, at 09:16  PM, Profile wrote:

> A question for the more informed of the group.  If indeed Apple's  
> claims that applications optimized for the 64 bit chip often run the  
> program twice as fast as the best Wintel machine, then how will the  
> advantages go with Apple if they adopt the same chip as the Windows  
> guys?
>
> Apple's own website shows the Photoshop performance to be near double  
> the best Windows machines, so does it seem wise to slow your system  
> and lose your speed advantage.  The Super Computers of Virginia, and  
> the Military were chosen not because they had an affinity for Apple,  
> rather they saw the potential of the G5 chip.
>
> Is this a wise move for Apple to do, if in fact it is true?  Also, if  
> true, why would I want to now purchase a new computer with a chip that  
> will one day lose support from the software developers?
>
> I for one, don't want to see them become like the dark side.
>
> John R.
>
>
> On Jun 4, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>
>> On the other hand this is also out:
>> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1823273,00.asp
>>
>>
>> So you have both sides of the rumors to choose from. It should indeed  
>> be an interesting "Stevenote".
>>
>>                      Jerry
>>
>> On Jun 04, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:
>>
>>> http://money.excite.com/ht/nw/bus/20050603/hle_bus-n03284709.html
>>> http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/ 
>>> 2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede
>>>
>>> Well the Stevenote looks interesting for Monday. Hope the Quicktime  
>>> feed can hold up to the strain.
>>> I know I will be sitting at the computer on Monday around 1pm.
>>>
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