There are certainly benefits to Apple working with Intel, benefits for
both companies. For those with short memories, Intel invented USB and
got no support from Microsoft and it (USB) was going nowhere. Apple
decided to dump the ADB connectors (keyboards, mice, joysticks, etc.)
and use USB in its place because it made a lot of sense. [After Apple
got it going Microsoft decided to support it and the rest of USB's
story is out there for those that want to look into it.] Both companies
gained here. (USB 2.0 vs FireWire is a different, later competition
between Intel and Apple, this one is a toss up as to who is winning,
Intel seems to be taking the low end and FireWire is taking the high
end and FireWire 800 is taking the very high end).
Then Apple released the Airport Base Station using the 802.11b
standard. Wireless wowed not only the computer world, but the world
itself. Intel decided to join in the wireless sensation sweeping the
computer world, but where to go with the second generation 802.11xyz
was a problem. Intel wanted 802.11a, Apple wanted 802.11g and used AMD
to build the chips for the base station and the internal Airport cards.
AMD is Intel's big rival. Well best known anyway. Pretty much Apple won
and Intel lost this one with "g" being the industry standard. But the
third generation of wireless technology will soon come into "regular"
use. The standard is up for grabs. Intel dearly wants to have WiMAX be
the standard. Apple has been mostly quiet about this.
It makes sense for Intel to keep very good relations with Apple,
because Apple can make things happen in a good way for Intel (instead
of AMD). I am not sure it makes such good sense to switch to Intel's
x86 type of processors though -- for a very long list of reasons. We
shall all know on Monday what is what. Unless, of course, Mr. Jobs
waits until Tuesday to walk into one of the conference rooms to "make
that announcement". (Tuesdays are the mythical day claimed on the 'net
by many that Apple releases new hardware.) :^)
Jerry
On Jun 04, 2005, at 11:04 PM, Rex Baldazo wrote:
> I think the switch to Intel is going to happen.? Stephen Shankland is
> reporting it on News.com and he's pretty hooked in to these kinds of
> things:
>
> http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-5731398.html
>
> The open question is whether we're talking actual PC's (i.e., Intel
> chips, a compatible BIOS, etc.) or just Intel as the CPU with custom
> Apple stuff wrapped around.? I'm hoping for the former because, as you
> say, it opens up the possibility of running OS X on cheaply available
> PC hardware.
>
> And cheaper laptops, which is where I think it could really be
> killer.? If you've ever run XP on na Intel laptop you know it's okay
> but the suspend/awake feature is nowhere near as smooth and
> bulletproof as OS X.? I'd love to be able to marry the $700 PC laptops
> out there with OS X as the operating system.
>
> --- Rex.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu on behalf of Bill Holt
> Sent: Sat 6/4/2005 10:46 PM
> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu
> Subject: Re: MacGroup: Apple Intel rumors
>
> Personally, I think the so-called experts who are predicting the
> change?
> to Intel chips are full of it.? As you note, there is a clear?
> performance disadvantage.? However, it would not surprise me to learn?
> that Apple is finally going to (or is exploring) market the OS to the?
> Intel crowd.? After all, it looks like it's going to be a year or
> more?
> until the next time M$ can make it's BS claim to have caught up.? The?
> features that M$ is promising are available now, in OSX.? Perhaps the?
> conversations are about how to key the OS to one machine.
>
> Frankly, I think this is way overdue and a potential source of more?
> profit than Apple generates from selling computers.? Imagine the
> market?
> ... a relatively cheap Intel machine loaded with OSX and preloaded
> with?
> open source software sufficient to eliminate the need for M$ Office.
>
> ?? Bill Holt
>
> On Saturday, June 4, 2005, at 09:16? PM, Profile wrote:
>
> > A question for the more informed of the group.? If indeed Apple's?
> > claims that applications optimized for the 64 bit chip often run
> the?
> > program twice as fast as the best Wintel machine, then how will the?
> > advantages go with Apple if they adopt the same chip as the Windows?
> > guys?
> >
> > Apple's own website shows the Photoshop performance to be near
> double?
> > the best Windows machines, so does it seem wise to slow your system?
> > and lose your speed advantage.? The Super Computers of Virginia,
> and?
> > the Military were chosen not because they had an affinity for
> Apple,?
> > rather they saw the potential of the G5 chip.
> >
> > Is this a wise move for Apple to do, if in fact it is true?? Also,
> if?
> > true, why would I want to now purchase a new computer with a chip
> that?
> > will one day lose support from the software developers?
> >
> > I for one, don't want to see them become like the dark side.
> >
> > John R.
> >
> >
> > On Jun 4, 2005, at 6:56 PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
> >
> >> On the other hand this is also out:
> >> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1823273,00.asp
> >>
> >>
> >> So you have both sides of the rumors to choose from. It should
> indeed?
> >> be an interesting "Stevenote".
> >>
> >> ???? ??????? ??????? Jerry
> >>
> >> On Jun 04, 2005, at 8:28 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://money.excite.com/ht/nw/bus/20050603/hle_bus-n03284709.html
> >>> http://news.com.com/Apple+to+ditch+IBM%2C+switch+to+Intel+chips/
> >>> 2100-1006_3-5731398.html?tag=nefd.lede
> >>>
> >>> Well the Stevenote looks interesting for Monday. Hope the
> Quicktime?
> >>> feed can hold up to the strain.
> >>> I know I will be sitting at the computer on Monday around 1pm.
> >>>
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