Rick,
You have accomplished a lot in a short time and your suggestion as to
the good of Faces is well taken.
If a person wants the "combinations" that you and I have done in the
past then Faces may not be the right option. If you are wanting to go
through your database quickly then faces is a real help. I caught
most of the near 5,000 photo's in just a little over an hour. I then
still had to go through each photo to find those that Faces missed,
due to profile shots, jpg's that were emailed and with the compression
of the camera and the compression of email I have found that the face
was not recognized in many cases. Also scanned photo's that I put in
at 300 dpi don't seem to do well so I'll try the next batch at a
higher dpi. It appears to me Faces is using the eyes, mouth, and nose
as the area it is trying to match so if one of the three is not a
clear shot it may miss naming the person.
I did see the real plus to faces with the speed factor and in my
"Daddy Mac" newsletter to many folks I have been selling this hard and
have received more comments on this than any other topic I have sent
out, including from the Windoze folks.
What I didn't know was the info. you have shared with us today, so now
I have to rethink how I want to do this. Apple should provide us
BOTH ways for I mean to tell you that choosing a couple faces then
hitting smart folder and then slideshow you can almost instantly
develop the most professional looking show I have ever seen. I was
very excited until your experience brought the shortcoming to light.
I still hope several of us will hound Apple to give us both but for
now when I get home I will try changing the names to numbers and
experiment.
Can't thank you enough.
John
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Rick Burnett wrote:
John,
yes. it appears that if you change the names to something other than
actual names (i.e. #1, #2, #3, etc.)
Then you can still use the keyword search in the proper manner.
of course, after changing the names in the Faces tab, typing "#2 #3"
in the search field does not give you photos with just #2 AND #3.
But if you use the old keywords, say John and Jane, then they are
sorted correctly.
The problem then becomes, what is faces good for? If I have to
keyword every person in a photo anyway, what's the point of using
faces (especially considering that it doesn't write to the actual
photo metadata anyway)?
Additionally, if the list gets any larger than a few people, when
the program asks "Is this person #9?" i'll have to look at the list
to make sure that it's actually the person labeled #9.
hurmph.
I may have go go back to just using keywords until Apple gets this
sorted out. The Places feature is nice, but it even runs dog slow on
my new 2.5 unibody MBP with 4GB of RAM.
***LOVE*** the new iMovie though!
Rick
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Profile wrote:
Rick,
You are doing a great job on this, what a hunk of work. What if
you dropped the names on the cork board and listed numbers. I
have 13 family members listed so if I took the names off and put 1
through 13 but their pictures remained so I would know who I was
searching for if I did a search for #3, would you then be able to
use the older Keyword search?
John
On Feb 13, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Rick Burnett wrote:
well, after some work, I've discovered that if you remove the
individual names from the Faces cork board (thereby eliminating
all our hours of work) then the behavior goes back to the default
search of keywords.
sigh.
and iPhoto still won't write the keywords or gps info to the
actual photo unless you export (making sure to mark the correct
boxes), delete the photo from your library (to avoid duplicates)
and then reimport the (exported) photo.
As much of a hassle and workaround as this is, I'm actually
considering doing it for the majority of my photos just to be safe
and have all my tagging work protected in case of a corruption to
the iPhoto database...
rick
On Feb 13, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Profile wrote:
Rick,
You are RIGHT! I have spent hours going through almost 5,000
pictures using the "faces" feature and am almost done.
Previously I had done as you and listed combinations of people in
the description area of the photo and could search the keywords
for just those two. I had not tried this under the new iPhoto
until your email and no matter how I fiddled with it this no
longer works. Bummer and we should complain to Apple about this
so they will add it back in, I sure intend to.
Thanks for finding this.
John
On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Rick Burnett wrote:
Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken, but this seems to be
a new
(and dumb) behavior in iPhoto 09.
In the previous version of iPhoto, I tagged everyone in my
pictures
using the keywords field.
To search for them, I could just type their name. To find a
picture
with multiple people I would just type both of their names.
For example, if I wanted to find just pictures of my mom and my
sister
together, i could type "Mom" and "Sis" in the search field.
Only pictures with *both* of them in it would show up.
Now, in iPhoto 09, typing "Mom" and "Sis" shows all pictures with
*either* of them in the photo.
This is not a good way of doing things. Am I missing something?
rick
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