> Hi Sam...thanks again, but you and I will just have to > disagree, in a freindly way over a beer? LOL...Apple was > so late getting even DVDs in their machines that some of > us thought that we would have to buy a Windoz box to get > one. (BTW...how long for a DVD burner in a Mac?--too > long) The refusual of Mac, until just the last several > years to upgrade its bus speed to anywhere close to > Windoz boxes was very disappointing to many of us.
Apple was right on track with DVDs in the Macs, and they pioneered DVDs in portables, and were the fist computer company to ship DVD burners. As with the bus speed, the way the Mac architecture is designed, it doesn't need as fast as a bus speed as its wintel counterpart. If you look at the benchmarks, you would see that the difference in bus speed hasn't faltered the Mac's reign on superior processing power. > You may be correct on some of the integration points, but > now that windoz has upgraded and made comptable some of > its network boxes and server software, the two can talk > and live together. Actually, I think that X with its > Unix/Linux like base may be better for integration of > Windoz and Mac OS than both of their older system > software. Apple gets a plus for that! The Darwin core in OS X is not UNIX or LINUX. Darwin is part of the BSD family, which is categorized as a "UNIX-like" OS, but there are huge differences between BSD, Sun, HP, or ATT UNIX. LINUX is also a "UNIX-like" OS, but it is watered down compared to the superior BSD breeds. I don't see how using a BSD core makes it any more compatible with NT or DOS (the two main M$ core OSes). Sure, OS X can speak the most popular windows networking languages, but so could ASIP running on OS 9. The core OS doesn't determine what all it can speak. > You may be a bit behind however, on upgrades...before > windoz had some real difficulty in upgrading, but I had > no, none, problems going from 95 to 98 and to ME (Now > that is on a relatively new machine but not brand new > either,--Maybe in the past but not now are there those > problems.) I don't know about XP, I have not purchased > it yet but am planning too. You must not work with PCs much. Last week, I was working on a win 95 box, and needed to reinstall the OS. The drivers for all the major components were made by random 3rd parties, most of which had gone out of business. It took me all day to track down the drivers. I see people having conflicts with their wireless NICs and the core OS, or one driver is conflicting and corrupting another, etc. Also, Win XP sucks. Four of my clients had to reinstall it a week after they got it. And most of the people I talked to tried it out for a few days, then went back to windows 2000 Pro. XP is a cheap imitation of OS X, M$ modified some GUI elements, but there is basically no new technology to make it better than its ME predecessor. > In contrast, my friends tell me the upgrade from 9.1 or > 9.2 to X is scary when you try to use many of the > applications in Classic...they are slow, they have > bugs...I just upgraded to the new MS office in 9.1.x and > it is so slow I can't believe it. But, I will upgrade to > X but only if the Appletalk stack is workable (it was > gone in X) for my network (PCMacLan)...X.x.x brings back > the Appletalk stack and it works, my 30 or so computer > club friends say. Also, I suspect TCP/IP is stronger in > X...but...we will see. Classic mode works great. Some of the high-speed action games run a little slow, but everything else runs at native speed. I'm coding away in DreamWeaver and rendering in Photoshop all day with no problems. AppleTalk support in OS X is even better than in OS 9, also, TCP/IP support is outstanding in OS X. After all, the BSD APIs Apple has written are out of this world. > I am not sure about your assertion/data about industries > using Macs on a wide spread basis (The US Army > does)...last not-for-profits I worked for took them out. > Many industries never had them except for multi-media, > some internet stuff, etc. Ok, lets start out... The journalism and newspaper industries all use Macs. Mac is the preferred platform among writers and novelists. Graphics professionals, multimedia designers, and advertising agencies all depend on Macs. Macs are huge in the audio and recording industries. And it is almost impossible to use anything else for digital video editing and production. Macs also make killer servers. Take Digitalforest for example, they are one of the trendsetters who have server farms full of Macs dedicated to high performance web serving solutions. > I still say we are singing the same tune...neither one of > us wants to see problems with Mac and both want them to > succeed. OS 9 walks all over any windows OS, and OS X will continue to slaughter every line of code that comes out of M$ for decades. As an Apple Developer, I've had the pleasure to kick some major butt with OS X for almost 2 years now. The best continues to get better. There is no comparison. Sam -- MacNetwork is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... XRouter Pro | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! Dr. Bott | Only $199 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/MIH130.html> Now shipping! 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