> Hi Sam...you and I are playing the same "tune"...(groan)
> but I guess it was so easy the other night to open up a
> completed, set up Media Player on my Windoz machine and
> use it.  It was slick, easy, had no conflicts and
> acctually I could figure out how to use it without
> reading a book.  (unusual for Windoz)  Frankly, I don't
> think I have found anything in the Apple world that
> compares with it.  Qucktime is great and a significant
> contribution to video in both platforms.   But, unless
> you pay for it...you will not have all the capability of
> Media Player.  If you pay, you may have...I haven't seen
> the pay version (4.0?).  But Media Player for Windoz (and
> Mac) is free.  

Apple takes QuickTime and iTunes to the next level. QuickTime comes
pre-installed with the OS, and if iTunes isn't already, it just takes two
clicks and it is. No configuring or setup to do.

> Yes, I agree with you, perhpas we are doing the apples
> and oranges thing, but Media Player does things which I
> believe puts it in the "Music dreamers" category, movie
> and general media category and appeals to a great
> audience.  Not sure Quicktime does that...I know it make
> slide shows, etc...but that is different...I will admit I
> haven't used it as a stand alone for a long time; then
> before only rarely.

QuickTime does way more than WMP. The free version of QT is for playing back
all your media files, and the pay or "Pro" version lets you create and save
or export your audio and video work.

> As I said the Mac version of Media Player is terrible and
> perhaps I didn't make myself clear on the browser
> point...It will only work on 2 or 3 versions of the SAME
> mac browser...and not the latest that I have, for
> example, Nescape 6.x.  Other versions of IE are also
> exempted and it is not comptable with them, either.

Yeah, that�s micro$oft's problem. They have done a nice job with Office and
IE for the Mac, but the rest of their stuff just sucks.

> I don't have itunes, does it work on a G3 beige or just
> on an imac?  I though it did not work on a machine like
> mine...I will need to explore that before I make anymore
> outrageous statemsnet...LOL

iTunes will work on ANY Mac running OS 9 or better.
There is a crack for OS 8.5/6 but success has been patchy.

> I guess I am migrating, more and more toward mac/windoz
> integration and taking the best from both in my work and
> at home with my hobby.  Apple, which seems to be in some
> difficulty with 9.2.x and X.x.x on their machines needs
> to catch up on some applications within their OS to make
> them work better and they will.

That�s odd, OS 9.2 (or OS 9.1 on non-G3 Macs) is the best version of the
classic OS I've seen. Apps run quickly and smoothly and stability is good.

With windows XP, M$ has finally caught up to Mac OS 9, but with OS X, there
is nothing that even comes close. Apple has a big winner with OS X. I'm
betting that the architecture of the core OS will last them 20 years, not
the hoped 10-15. M$ has a real problem with core OSes. It'll be real
interesting when the intel P5 chip comes out. From what've seen, it is an
interestingly evolved RISC architecture. If intel keeps on course,
everything for PCs as you know it will have to be re-written for an
architecture just like the Mac. Everything else will have to run under
emulation. Heheheh.

> But, when I used Media
> Player, the thought just wouldnt leave me that this was a
> slick marketing item and  integrated many good items
> multi-media, music, video, etc. wize.  Yet, I have to say
> the i-POD of apple is also a very neat marketing item and
> will sell amazingly well for music folks.  So hopefully,
> Apple will keep going strong in this area of great interest.
> 
> I hope both MS and Apple do well...I bought stock in both!!

You're safe for now, but once all these radical anti-terrorism efforts are
over, M$ will be in the spotlight once again. Hopefully they'll get shut
down for good. We can't have huge monstrosities toppling competitors with
unfair business practices. Its un-American and is hurting the progression of
technology.

Sam

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