Yes, his system is not very old. Probably just needs a new HDD and macOS 
reinstall and it would be good to go. My understanding is that it is an iMac 
(21.5-inch, Late 2013) iMac14,1, but I’m not 100% certain of it. I asked him to 
go to About This Mac, but he doesn’t know how to do that… Plus, he’s across the 
country from me, so I can’t just take it under my wing. It would probably be 
simple to fix, but sometimes the best “fix” is no fix at all.

I didn’t know any Macs shipped today with an HDD. Thanks for pointing that out. 
I thought all current models were SSD-based. For Apple to be shipping a current 
iMac with what amounts to a 2.5” laptop HDD as the main/only drive is 
eyebrow-raising, to say the least.

-Carl


> On Dec 28, 2017, at 5:11 PM, David Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You never shared exactly what model of iMac was under discussion, but "4+ 
> years" suggests a "Late 2013", which wouldn't be particularly old in my mind. 
> I've got lots of Mid 2011 iMacs (with SSD upgrades) humming along quite 
> nicely w/High Sierra. And a 2013 model supports the newer AirDrop and wake 
> w/Apple Watch, both features I very much appreciate on my newer desktops. 
> 
> Restarting into Internet Recovery mode, erasing the drive and installing High 
> Sierra cleanly seems like a reasonable step to take before deciding there is 
> a hardware issue. 
> 
> But if the owner just needs an excuse to drop money on a new machine, please 
> make sure he/she doesn't buy an iMac with a single rotating magnetic drive. 
> If they're opting for a 21.5", either go full Flash or go Fusion, but don't 
> get stuck with the slow 5400 RPM 2.5" HD. It's a dog-slow machine and an 
> embarrassment that Apple still sells this configuration. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Carl Hoefs <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve tried the D-boot diagnostics thing, and it’s never worked for me. Maybe 
>> other people have more luck with it, but for me it just goes on forever and 
>> never reports anything.
>> 
>> Seeing as how my friend is "not-so-very-computer-savvy", I think at this 
>> point he’ll be best served by going with a new machine as opposed to 
>> continually futzing with his current system. I can kinda read between the 
>> lines that he wants an excuse to get a new computer anyway, so I’ll just let 
>> it go at that...
>> 
>> Thanks for all the hints and tips! It’s been quite educational.
>> -Carl
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 28, 2017, at 1:11 PM, Matt Penna <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If there's a lingering and longstanding question about malware, you could 
>>> try backing the system up and then wiping it out totally—including deletion 
>>> of all the partitions—just to see if the problem persists after a totally 
>>> clean install with no files or other applications on the machine. That 
>>> could help nail down if it's a hardware problem.
>>> 
>>> Has he run diagnostics on the machine, himself? Hold the D key at startup 
>>> and it should start the hardware test routine.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Carl Hoefs 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Here’s the update:
>>> 
>>> "OK, I have reset the System Management Controller and the PRAM.  Just 
>>> changed the magic mouse batteries last Saturday.  Still had the grey screen 
>>> and loss of mouse connection when the iMac woke up this morning.  I've had 
>>> issues with this iMac ever since I got that secd security bug and Mac 
>>> Grabber virus over a year ago.  Genius Bar doesn't know if the issue is 
>>> hardware or software, and say there’s a $100 part I could “try” swapping 
>>> out.  No thanks.  The Mac is 4+ years old.  I've read 4-5 is average. Time 
>>> to get something new...”
>>> 
>>> Any last suggestions?
>>> -Carl
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