you know why? because the i phone is way more superior than the pac mate let him pay 3000 US dollars or more for it, an i phone is loads cheaper and does everything that does? can someone send me off list please, the original article he posted?
On 18 Jul 2009, at 11:34, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > Any access technology developer who thinks that way so far as I'm > concerned has nothing of any worth left to offer. > > > > On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Larry Wanger wrote: > >> Who cares if we win them over. We talk with our pocket books and, >> if enough >> of us stop paying thousands for their products and hundreds more >> each year >> in SMA agreements it will get their attention. It's like any other >> product >> and the markets they compete in. >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell >> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:01 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone >> >> >> >> You know I truly am not into slamming people, but in Mr. Mosen's >> case, I >> have heard his previous show/podcast and just based on observations >> from >> that and things he has said/written, I seriously doubt he would sit >> down >> with you or an iPhone and certainly not to be objective about his >> findings. >> I think he would be quite argumentative and take a hardline on his >> position >> regardless of whether he is proven right or wrong. In other words, >> you'd >> accomplish nothing more than wasting your time and giving yourself a >> headache. I'll not name names or so forth, but a conversation I had >> with a >> particular adaptive technology developer ran along the lines of me >> expressing my enthusiasm about the Mac and VO and how it was nice >> to see >> their product could be used under a VM. Of course that met with a >> very much >> "I don't care" attitude. I think I was looked upon as being at the >> very >> least miledly daft and why in hell would you want to use a stupid >> Mac when >> you have a great solution and a good os at your disposal. :) So, >> the market >> being what it is, I don't think you'll ever win him or most of >> these folks >> over. I guess I sort of understand considering that Apple is truly a >> competitor now and any competition is a threat. >> >> On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Larry Wanger wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Josh, >> >> >> >> I may complain about the keyboard but overall this phone is great. >> I am more >> productive with this phone and able to do so much more than I could >> with my >> Samsung Blackjack II, even with its quarty keyboard. And, I had >> terrible >> luck finding applications for that phone that were accessible. I >> have pages >> of apps on my iPhone that I use all the time. >> >> >> >> What frustrates me about Jonathan's article/email is that he wrote >> this >> before ever touching the iPhone and his position is quite clear >> about how he >> feels. And, like it or not, he's a "leader" if you want to call him >> that, in >> the access technology world. I don't mean leader in the traditional >> sense; I >> mean it in that he's a vice president at one of the largest blindness >> technology providers in the world and with that role comes some >> responsibility. Responsibility to not jump to conclusions and to >> speak >> rashly about products from competitors lest you take the appearance >> of being >> self promoting and carrying the company line. I'd love the >> opportunity to >> set down with Mr. Mosen and to show him just how productive I am on >> my >> iPhone. No, it doesn't run the KNFB reader and it doesn't have an >> advanced >> camera like some other phones in the world but it works a hell of a >> lot >> better than Mosen makes it sound in this article. I wonder if he >> would be >> willing to sit down and write out his observations after the iPhone >> has been >> in the marketplace for almost a month now. But, I bet he's never >> even held >> one in his hand so, as with his initial observations, any response >> he might >> give now would be baseless. >> >> >> >> >> >> _____ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh de >> Lioncourt >> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:19 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so >> inefficient is: >> How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever >> touched a >> QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface >> interaction. >> After three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery >> status, or >> really much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do >> not move >> around, and the flick method of navigation is great when you are >> having >> trouble with a brand-new and unfamiliar screen. >> >> >> >> Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, >> inefficient, >> and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number >> of VI >> iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be >> comfortable. >> Once you are, it's fantastic. :) >> >> >> Josh de Lioncourt >> >> .my other mail provider is an owl. >> >> >> >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt >> >> Music: http://stage19music.com >> >> Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com >> >> Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com >> >> GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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