Any access technology developer who thinks that way so far as I'm concerned has nothing of any worth left to offer.
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009, Larry Wanger wrote: > Who cares if we win them over. We talk with our pocket books and, if enough > of us stop paying thousands for their products and hundreds more each year > in SMA agreements it will get their attention. It's like any other product > and the markets they compete in. > > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Howell > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 12:01 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone > > > > You know I truly am not into slamming people, but in Mr. Mosen's case, I > have heard his previous show/podcast and just based on observations from > that and things he has said/written, I seriously doubt he would sit down > with you or an iPhone and certainly not to be objective about his findings. > I think he would be quite argumentative and take a hardline on his position > regardless of whether he is proven right or wrong. In other words, you'd > accomplish nothing more than wasting your time and giving yourself a > headache. I'll not name names or so forth, but a conversation I had with a > particular adaptive technology developer ran along the lines of me > expressing my enthusiasm about the Mac and VO and how it was nice to see > their product could be used under a VM. Of course that met with a very much > "I don't care" attitude. I think I was looked upon as being at the very > least miledly daft and why in hell would you want to use a stupid Mac when > you have a great solution and a good os at your disposal. :) So, the market > being what it is, I don't think you'll ever win him or most of these folks > over. I guess I sort of understand considering that Apple is truly a > competitor now and any competition is a threat. > > On Jul 13, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Larry Wanger wrote: > > > > > > Josh, > > > > I may complain about the keyboard but overall this phone is great. I am more > productive with this phone and able to do so much more than I could with my > Samsung Blackjack II, even with its quarty keyboard. And, I had terrible > luck finding applications for that phone that were accessible. I have pages > of apps on my iPhone that I use all the time. > > > > What frustrates me about Jonathan's article/email is that he wrote this > before ever touching the iPhone and his position is quite clear about how he > feels. And, like it or not, he's a "leader" if you want to call him that, in > the access technology world. I don't mean leader in the traditional sense; I > mean it in that he's a vice president at one of the largest blindness > technology providers in the world and with that role comes some > responsibility. Responsibility to not jump to conclusions and to speak > rashly about products from competitors lest you take the appearance of being > self promoting and carrying the company line. I'd love the opportunity to > set down with Mr. Mosen and to show him just how productive I am on my > iPhone. No, it doesn't run the KNFB reader and it doesn't have an advanced > camera like some other phones in the world but it works a hell of a lot > better than Mosen makes it sound in this article. I wonder if he would be > willing to sit down and write out his observations after the iPhone has been > in the marketplace for almost a month now. But, I bet he's never even held > one in his hand so, as with his initial observations, any response he might > give now would be baseless. > > > > > > _____ > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh de Lioncourt > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Article Slamming the iPhone > > > > > > What I'd like to ask all these folks saying the iPhone is so inefficient is: > How efficient were you three weeks after the first time you ever touched a > QWERTY keyboard? It's a whole new model for human interface interaction. > After three weeks, I have no problems just touching the battery status, or > really much of anything else. Things are not hard to find. They do not move > around, and the flick method of navigation is great when you are having > trouble with a brand-new and unfamiliar screen. > > > > Sitting with an iPhone for an hour and then declaring it slow, inefficient, > and difficult to navigate is just silly. :) The ever growing number of VI > iPhone users will tell you the same. Sure, it takes time to be comfortable. > Once you are, it's fantastic. :) > > > Josh de Lioncourt > > .my other mail provider is an owl. > > > > Twitter: http://twitter.com/Lioncourt > > Music: http://stage19music.com > > Mac-cessibility: http://www.Lioncourt.com > > Blog: http://lioncourtsmusings.blogspot.com > > GoodReads: http://goodreads.com/Lioncourt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
