Hi Donna,

How odd that double-clicking didn't open the file by default into  
iTunes. And your track should play when you select it and press  
Return. OK, a few thoughts:

1. If you select the track in the ringtones playlist, can you check  
that the time is under 40 seconds?  Look in the songs table, and VO- 
Right arrow past the name to the total time.
2. Can you do a Get Info (Command-I) on the track and select the  
Summary tab instead of the Options tab?  It will probably come up with  
your focus on the Summary tab and with this selected, but if not,  
select this tab with VO-Space.   VO-Right arrow into this pane past  
the title.  You should hear a report of the Kind of file, for instance:
  Kind: Ringtone, Size: 637.3 KB, Bit Rate: 256 kbps (VBR), Sample  
Rate: 44.100 kHz, Date Modified: 9/7/09 08:52, Play Count: 2, Last  
Played: 9/7/09 09:10  unknown

I used VO-Shift-C to copy this group and paste it in.  I'm curious  
about whether your bit rate setting is at some value that the Ringtone  
won't recognize.  Can you check this information?  (This is the  
information for a ringtone I created as a test.)
3. If you have Amadeus Pro, can you open and play the track there?   
For example, if you have a copy of the track on your Desktop, and you  
use the context menu (VO-Shift-M), find the "Open with" menu option,  
Right arrow to the submenu, then arrow down to Amadeus Pro and press  
return, it should get loaded into Amadeus Pro.  Can you play it there  
if you press space bar?  If so, you should be able to select all  
(Command-A), go to the File menu and select the "Export as iTunes  
Ringtone…" option  (VO-M, press "F", arrow down and press "E").  It  
may do another encoding conversion -- just accept the defaults.  I  
think that should add the file to the iPhones Ringtone directory, but  
you may have to open it again or use Spotlight to search for the  
file.  I tried that way of generating ring tones from my purchased  
(DRM-free songs) and it seemed to work.

Those are most of my current thoughts.  I did a few quick experiments  
with Amadeus Pro.  However, I've generated tracks that show up and  
play as Ringtones solely in iTunes as well (even with tracks purchased  
from the iTunes Store), so you should be able to do it, as well.

Cheers,

Esther

Donna Goodin wrote:

>
> Hi Esther,
>
> Well, double-clicking on the file didn't do anything.  So I tried  
> pressing
> Command-O with the file on my desktop selected--and yes, renamed  
> with the
> M4R extension.  That did cause it to be imported into itunes, at  
> least I can
> see it in the ringtones playlist.  But, when I try to play it, it  
> won't
> play.  Is that normal?
> Thanks,
> Donna
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Esther
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:29 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: copying from itunes
>>
>>
>> Hi Donna,
>>
>> Have you already renamed the file to the .m4r extension?  If so, you
>> should be able to just double click on the file with VO-Shift-Space
>> (hold down Control, Option, and Shift keys and tap the space bar
>> twice) to add the file to iTunes.  It should show up in the Ringtones
>> list.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> Donna Goodin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Esther,
>>>
>>> I finally copied the file, by just opening up Macintosh HD and
>>> finding the
>>> folder and manually copying it.  So, now it's on my desktop.  But,
>>> When I do
>>> Command-O in Itunes, it won't let me go to my desktop to select a
>>> file.  I
>>> can go to Contacts, users, my account folder, and documents, but not
>>> the
>>> desktop.  I tried moving the file to documents but I'm still not
>>> able to
>>> view documents from the doc, so have no way to open that folder.   
>>> Any
>>> thoughts on how I can tell Itunes to look for the file on my  
>>> desktop?
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Esther
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 2:06 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: copying from itunes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Donna,
>>>>
>>>> Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm attempting to follow Simon's instructions for creating
>>>>> ringtones.  But I
>>>>> am unable to copy anything out of my itunes songs table, not the
>> new
>>>>> file
>>>>> I've created and not any other files either.  This seems to be new
>>>>> behavior
>>>>> with Snow Leopard?  At least, it never happened to me before.  The
>>>>> copy
>>>>> option shows up in the menu as valid, I've tried pressing Command
>> C,
>>>>> and
>>>>> also activating it through the menu.  But when I go to paste it
>> onto
>>>>> my
>>>>> desktop, the paste command shows up as dimmed.  Anyone know what
>>>>> could be
>>>>> happening?
>>>>
>>>> You can try the following: if you've created a copied file in  
>>>> iTunes
>>>> with "Create AAC Version" and have that track highlighted in iTunes
>>>> use the "Command-R" shortcut that shows the location of the file in
>>>> Finder to bring up a Finder window with your selected track
>>>> highlighted.  Then, from that Finder window, copy the track with
>>>> Command-C and paste it to the Desktop.  You should even be able to
>>>> press the shortcut for navigating to the Desktop, "Command-Shift- 
>>>> D",
>>>> just after you copy with Command-C, and then paste with Command-V.
>>>> If
>>>> you have difficulty pasting, switch to icon view with Command-1 and
>>>> try your paste again.
>>>>
>>>> HTH.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Esther
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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