I never used one of those.  I've held one and checked one out, but never got 
the hang of them.

    I have a friend who has an Apple 2E with a lot of his original accessories 
and disks.  He fires that puppy up from time to time for nostalgia sake. 


Take Care

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On Jul 26, 2014, at 11:57 AM, Barry Hadder <[email protected]> wrote:

> I long for the days of the abacus.
> 
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:35 AM, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  The reality is, you are going to find problems with any version of an 
> operating system.  Look at the Windows users who still stick with XP at this 
> point.  There are oddities that one person may have that cannot be recreated 
> by another person with any version of an OS.  That is just the unfortunate 
> aspect of computers, even within Mac systems.  Personally, going back to Snow 
> Leopard?  Are you crazy?  Anyone who says that has not used each of the 
> operating systems extensively as they have progressed from Tiger.  VoiceOver 
> has come a long way since 10.4, and since I still have a Snow Leopard install 
> available to me, as well as a Leopard one, I can tell you that you are not 
> missing anything significant.  I have to work with a lady who is still 
> running Snow Leopard and it's seems antiquated to me when I use it.  It's 
> like night and day compared to VoiceOver in Mavericks.  I'd take Mavericks 
> over Tiger, Leopard, Snow Leopard or anything else.  There are considerable 
> technical differences and advances as well that go beyond VoiceOver.  You are 
> drastically understating things if you are pining for the days of Snow 
> Leopard.
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
> John D. Panarese
> Director
> Mac for the Blind
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> Email, [email protected]
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> 
> 
> On Jul 26, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Brandon A. Olivares <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> I don't see what is wrong with Mavericks. It's been working absolutely fine 
>> for me.
>> 
>> Any issues I had was because my computer was old. I just got a new Macbook 
>> Pro, and now it runs smoothly. It's been perfectly solid.
>> 
>> ---
>> Peace,
>> Brandon
>> 
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>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 3:51 AM, Christopher Hallsworth 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Very true in that newer is not always better. My mac came preinstalled with 
>>> Lion so I could go back to it if I really wanted to using Internet 
>>> Recovery. I could also reinstall Mountain Lion by downloading it from the 
>>> Mac App Store. Guess it's each to their own but since my mac is not my 
>>> primary machine I don't mind upgrading and living the possible consequences.
>>> 
>>> On 25/07/2014 23:34, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> Warning: whiny rant ahead.
>>>> 
>>>> I made the mistake of reinstalling Snow Leopard on one of my older 
>>>> machines that supported it.  I also learned that my desktop iMac 
>>>> originally came with it, and that although difficult, I could choose to 
>>>> use it.  This would still be preferable to going back to Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> I say "Mistake" because using Snow Leopard again, even for a short while, 
>>>> made me realise just how stupid and pointless all subsequent releases of 
>>>> OS X have been.  I mean, really, it's just gimmicks and iOS envy.  The 
>>>> small number of worthwhile features that came with newer OS releases could 
>>>> easily have been foregone or substituted if it meant getting back what I 
>>>> most liked about a clean, stable, functional OS like Snow Leopard.  How 
>>>> could I have upgraded three OS releases and not noticed that?  I guess the 
>>>> "Magic" of Apple is really that they can convince people to accept 
>>>> unwelcome change, even for some trifling little benefit which they will 
>>>> sell as a "Feature" to justify an entire OS upgrade.
>>>> 
>>>> So, to answer your question, the reason to install ML over Mavericks is 
>>>> that newer is not always better, but that ML is a good bit more stable and 
>>>> comes from a better cut.  However, I do recommend it in this instance, 
>>>> because Apple has abandoned accessibility support for ML, and you won't 
>>>> get system software updates that address any accessibility issues.  I 
>>>> know; I asked.  There are a couple of minor changes in Mavericks besides 
>>>> that make it worth having, like invisible Time Machine backups, and 
>>>> multi-process Safari.  However, you'll have to learn how to work the new 
>>>> iBooks, if you need it, and there are definite stability issues.
>>>> 
>>>> /me wonders if he should install Snow Leopard on my primary desktop, and 
>>>> live forever in a better time ...
>>>> 
>>>> No, probably not.  I would only hurt myself in the long run.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I saw the latest Yosemite, in case anyone's wondering.  I'm not 
>>>> telling you what to expect, but you can sign up for the beta for free.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Sabahattin
>>>> 
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