Not to respond for her, but they are actually trying to get her Office for the Mac, which is why we’re asking if it’s accessible.
> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:06 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Christine, > > It sounds like your workplace uses Windows. You will probably receive copies > of Microsoft Office for Windows and a Windows-based screen reader, such as > JAWS for Windows or Window-Eyes. If you intend to run these on your personal > Mac, you'll have to install Windows on your Mac (e.g. via Boot Camp). > > Best, > > Grant > > Sent from mobile > > On Dec 19, 2014, at 7:25 PM, Christine Olivares <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my > place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have > gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to > tell them to not order it. > > Thanks so much, > Christine >> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office >> is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and >> government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or >> word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only >> use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on >> sharepoint. >> >> Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in >> one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats >> unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are >> just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to >> use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to >> automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys >> me a whole lot. >> >> Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom >> the tool is actually more important than the task. >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> >> >> >> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. >>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. >>>> >>>> Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in >>>> accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of >>>> a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? >>>> >>>> Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my >>>> documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, >>>> its anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word >>>> processor to import from. >>>> >>>> But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. >>>> >>>> From The Believer. . . >>>> . . . what if it were true? >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: >>>>> Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone >>>>> version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in >>>>> Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for >>>>> iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is >>>>> pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet >>>>> doable. >>>>> >>>>> Grant >>>>> >>>>> Sent from mobile >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word >>>>> on the iOS is what I am referring too. >>>>> >>>>> Sean >>>>>> On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them >>>>>> into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be >>>>>> looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be >>>>>> interested to know if this is feasible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> >>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Faisal, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. >>>>>>> This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook >>>>>>> for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook >>>>>>> appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending >>>>>>> messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If >>>>>>> the next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much >>>>>>> accessibility in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built >>>>>>> into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is >>>>>>> still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit >>>>>>> tables. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grant >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from mobile >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information >>>>>>> from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not >>>>>>> forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps >>>>>>> are accessible, that is still no proof that it will become >>>>>>> accessibility on the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official >>>>>>> twitter app and twitterific amongst others. >>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just >>>>>>>> like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till >>>>>>>> they're released sometime in 2015. >>>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. 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