Hi everyone, I am the one brandon wrote about. I was supposed to have used Access at my place of work for their database…the commission for the Blind wouldn’t have gotten me Office if I didn’t need access. I have a lot of convincing to do to tell them to not order it.
Thanks so much, Christine > On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:46 PM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: > > It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is > the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. > It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and > provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those > formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint. > > Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in > one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats > unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are > just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to > use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to > automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys > me a whole lot. > > Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the > tool is actually more important than the task. > > Erik Burggraaf > > > > On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com > <mailto:faisal.a...@icloud.com>> wrote: > >> I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. >>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. >>> >>> Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in >>> accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of >>> a third party suite that is yet to be accessible? >>> >>> Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my >>> documents. DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its >>> anybody's guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word >>> processor to import from. >>> >>> But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. >>> >>> From The Believer. . . >>> . . . what if it were true? >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com> >>> >>> On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: >>>> Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone >>>> version of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in >>>> Word documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for >>>> iOS are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is >>>> pretty bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. >>>> >>>> Grant >>>> >>>> Sent from mobile >>>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy <mhysnm1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on >>>> the iOS is what I am referring too. >>>> >>>> Sean >>>>> On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them >>>>> into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be >>>>> looking into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be >>>>> interested to know if this is feasible. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Faisal, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. >>>>>> This fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook >>>>>> for Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook >>>>>> appears to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending >>>>>> messages, and many other areas of the program are working great). If the >>>>>> next version of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility >>>>>> in mind, it could turn out to be very usable. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built >>>>>> into the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is >>>>>> still lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit >>>>>> tables. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Grant >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from mobile >>>>>> >>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information >>>>>> from? I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not >>>>>> forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are >>>>>> accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on >>>>>> the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and >>>>>> twitterific amongst others. >>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth >>>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just >>>>>>> like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till >>>>>>> they're released sometime in 2015. >>>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. 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