It's a bone to throw at institutions who will insist that microsoft office is the only viable option. Colleges, universities, corporate and government. It's a big deel if your professor expects you to use excel or word and provides intructions very tailored to that product and or will only use those formats. It's also a big deal in corporate settings based on sharepoint.
Although I myself find iwork perfectly acceptable and I am not involved in one of the main usecases for office on the mac, I find iwork's file formats unacceptable because they can not be opened by ms office users, and they are just plain damn enormous. So, the fact that iwork essentially forces you to use it's formats by adding 3 extra steps to convert and refuses to automatically save a document in the format it was created in really annoys me a whole lot. Other than that, it's fine but you'll never convince some people for whom the tool is actually more important than the task. Erik Burggraaf On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote: > I agree, iWork is perfectly acceptable as a office suite. >> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:05 PM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I have been kind of following this thread out of interest. >> >> Where do the Apple apps, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote, fall short in >> accessibility? Is there any compelling reason to pass these up in favor of a >> third party suite that is yet to be accessible? >> >> Because I am using DBT under Windows, I use MS Word to create my documents. >> DBT has not yet released a Mac version but even if they did, its anybody's >> guess that the Mac version will use Word or some other word processor to >> import from. >> >> But at any rate, I am curious about the Microsoft versus Apple deal. >> >> From The Believer. . . >> . . . what if it were true? >> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >> >> On 12/19/2014 5:56 PM, Grant Hardy wrote: >>> Hello Sean, yes, I am also referring to the most recent, standalone version >>> of Microsoft Word for iOS. VoiceOver does not work with tables in Word >>> documents. I know many people have said that the new Office apps for iOS >>> are accessible, and in some ways they are, but Word in particular is pretty >>> bare bones in terms of what is accessible and what isn't yet doable. >>> >>> Grant >>> >>> Sent from mobile >>> >>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Sean Murphy <mhysnm1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Office Mobile as you are calling it does not detect tables. Office Word on >>> the iOS is what I am referring too. >>> >>> Sean >>>> On 20 Dec 2014, at 11:40 am, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, can you not create tables in excel mobile, then copy and paste them >>>> into word mobile, and/or insert a spreadsheet as a table? I'll be looking >>>> into office mobile soon for my girlfriend and wyould be interested to know >>>> if this is feasible. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy <grantha...@outlook.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Faisal, >>>>> >>>>> I haven't heard anything official, either. But there are good signs. This >>>>> fall, Microsoft released a brand new version of Microsoft Outlook for >>>>> Mac, available to Office 365 subscribers. That version of Outlook appears >>>>> to be very accessible (e.g. the ribbon, reading and sending messages, and >>>>> many other areas of the program are working great). If the next version >>>>> of Microsoft Office is designed with as much accessibility in mind, it >>>>> could turn out to be very usable. >>>>> >>>>> I'll point out that in my opinion, there is some accessibility built into >>>>> the Microsoft Office mobile apps for iOS but in many areas it is still >>>>> lacking. For example, in Word, I know of no way to create or edit tables. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Grant >>>>> >>>>> Sent from mobile >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:20 AM, Faisal ali <faisal.a...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Chris, I was just wondering where you heard this bit of information from? >>>>> I ask this because as far as far as I know, accessibility is not >>>>> forthcoming as there is no indication of this. Although the IOS apps are >>>>> accessible, that is still no proof that it will become accessibility on >>>>> the Mac. A perfect example of this is the official twitter app and >>>>> twitterific amongst others. >>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 11:12 AM, christopher hallsworth >>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Not yet, but it is expected that Office 2015 will be accessible just >>>>>> like the individual apps for iOS. How accessible we won't know till >>>>>> they're released sometime in 2015. >>>>>>> On 19 Dec 2014, at 15:32, Brandon A. Olivares >>>>>>> <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> i’m wondering if MS Office for the Mac is accessible with Voiceover? >>>>>>> I’ve heard it wasn’t in the past, but haven’t heard anything about this >>>>>>> recently. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Brandon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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