Hello,
Actually VoiceOver came out with Leopard, OS X 10.4 in 2004 I purchased my 
first Mac Mini in September that year and it was the first with VoiceOver fully 
implemented.


> On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, I didn't really make a note of the dates. I can only give them based on 
> dates of historical events.  I believe that I was using jaws 4.0 at the time. 
> According to wikipedia, jaws 4.0 was released in 2001. That coincides nicely 
> with the release of Mac Os X also in 2001. So I am going to say my memory 
> there is correct. But I was not a Mac user at the time and I was never 
> directly responsible for the computer labs.
> 
> Tiger wasn't released until 2005. So there would have been 4 years where 
> there was no screen reader for Macs unless you wanted to run an obsolete 
> version of the operating system.  I know it's fair to say you could stick 
> with Mac OS 9 up until tiger came out but I don't think that is realistic in 
> many cases. For example, the manager of a computer lab in a school or 
> university isn't going to want to stick with a version of an operating system 
> that was obsolete 4 years earlier. It's easier to talk the administration 
> into ponying up the money for jaws.
> 
> I no longer work for the department that manages the computer labs here so I 
> don't know when the switch back to Macs began. They're all over the place 
> now, though.
> 
> On 03/31/2015 01:44 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
>> Indeed, the education sector/section-508 (in the US) looks, on the existing 
>> evidence at least, to have been the cause for Apple’s commitment.  A shame, 
>> I suppose, that it always takes legislation to set of this sort of thing.
>> 
>> Can you remember when about which period it was that your institution 
>> decided to convert to Windows for this reason?  The one thing I’ve not yet 
>> been clear on is when Apple’s APIs were actually substantial enough.  For 
>> example it is documented that 10.2 or thereabouts contained support enough, 
>> but the screen reader did not actually appear until Panther (as Spoken 
>> interface Preview).  Could it have been that, though present, the APIs were 
>> simply not documented?  And in which case, when did the documentation 
>> appear?  It’s certainly available now.
>> 
> 
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