Hello, I goofed, it was Tiger, not Leopard. : > On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello, > Actually VoiceOver came out with Leopard, OS X 10.4 in 2004 I purchased my > first Mac Mini in September that year and it was the first with VoiceOver > fully implemented. > > >> On Mar 31, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Todor Fassl <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Well, I didn't really make a note of the dates. I can only give them based >> on dates of historical events. I believe that I was using jaws 4.0 at the >> time. According to wikipedia, jaws 4.0 was released in 2001. That coincides >> nicely with the release of Mac Os X also in 2001. So I am going to say my >> memory there is correct. But I was not a Mac user at the time and I was >> never directly responsible for the computer labs. >> >> Tiger wasn't released until 2005. So there would have been 4 years where >> there was no screen reader for Macs unless you wanted to run an obsolete >> version of the operating system. I know it's fair to say you could stick >> with Mac OS 9 up until tiger came out but I don't think that is realistic in >> many cases. For example, the manager of a computer lab in a school or >> university isn't going to want to stick with a version of an operating >> system that was obsolete 4 years earlier. It's easier to talk the >> administration into ponying up the money for jaws. >> >> I no longer work for the department that manages the computer labs here so I >> don't know when the switch back to Macs began. They're all over the place >> now, though. >> >> On 03/31/2015 01:44 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote: >>> Indeed, the education sector/section-508 (in the US) looks, on the existing >>> evidence at least, to have been the cause for Apple’s commitment. A shame, >>> I suppose, that it always takes legislation to set of this sort of thing. >>> >>> Can you remember when about which period it was that your institution >>> decided to convert to Windows for this reason? The one thing I’ve not yet >>> been clear on is when Apple’s APIs were actually substantial enough. For >>> example it is documented that 10.2 or thereabouts contained support enough, >>> but the screen reader did not actually appear until Panther (as Spoken >>> interface Preview). Could it have been that, though present, the APIs were >>> simply not documented? And in which case, when did the documentation >>> appear? It’s certainly available now. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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