Apple is not denying anyone anything. So another adapter might be in order. If the iPhone 7 brings new features that everyone will die for, adding one adapter to the mix is minuscule. We really need to step back and put it all in perspective. And wait to see what Apple is really going to do with this.

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On 6/29/2016 12:19 PM, David Griffith wrote:
I am personally disturbed because

1. I have never found a bluetooth headset loude enough for me as a
severely deaf person.

2. I hate with a huge amount options which try to use my hearing aids as
an alternative as the sound is also lousy

3. However I get perfect loud fidelity from a large range of cheap
headsets including my £7.99 JVC Gumy earphones which are perfectly loud
enough for me with my iPhone. They are for example far superior to the
earphones provided with my SE - which are very quiet by comparison.


I hate the fact that Apple wants to deny me the possibility of using my
wired earphones and force me into unnecessarily expensive bluetooth
options or alternatively buy another clumsy adaptor limiting the
funtionality of my device.


I have an iPhone SE for the moment but like others will probably be
forced to switch to Android to maintain choice in this area.


Apple are strangely arrogant in this respect. They obviously regard
perfectly functional technology as old hat - they have never bent on
allowing SD card storage for example. I notice that Samsung bent to
consumer demand and reinstated the SD Card into their phones after
consumer protest. I doubt whether Apple would listen in the same way
somehow.


David Griffiththe

On 28/06/2016 12:19, Saqib Hussain wrote:

Hi. Invested in a Sony Bluetooth Headset and the sound quality is
great with plenty of base. They only cost me around £60. I would never
go back to a wired headset again. I don’t like the idea of Apple
implementing a an lightening connector for their next great invention
for their EarPods because you can’t charge your phone at the same time
unless they are going to bring out wireless charging phones.
On 26 Jun 2016, at 23:55, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

Cait,
   Better than any of that is uhm, the time before computers!

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On 6/26/2016 3:42 PM, Caitlyn Furness wrote:
Exactly!!  things change over time.

does anybody remember 8 track tapes, or even just plain old
cassettes??  How about those huge 5 and a half inch floppy disks?
How about when all the memory you could get was something like 64
megs, and there really wasn’t any portable storage??

yep, progress is good!

Cait

On Jun 26, 2016, at 6:24 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Some members here may not go back far enough to the days of the
many choices we had for headphones. Wired,  wired, wired, wired,
and wired. (smiles)

  I really do not get this concern over a possible change in
hardware that no one has laid eyes on. But if it is true, its as
good as carved in stone (the 7 is likely off the drawing board by
now). And should I need (not want) a new phone, why, I have faith
in Apple in its ability to provide what may be needed to satisfy
connectivity concerns.

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On 6/26/2016 3:09 PM, erik burggraaf wrote:
All this makes me very glad I'm an android user.  Whether the
demize of
the 3.5 mm jack turns out to be a good thing long term or not, I
myself
am not ready to take that step.  I can't even really go for bluetooth
headphones which I'd really like to do because I need wired
headphones
for so many things besides my phone.  The bank machine for
example.  I
have to have bt headphones that give me the option of plugging in
when I
want to and those headsets are so bulky and so expensive that they
really aren't useful as wireless headphones.

So, I just bought a $100 android phone that does everything I
would want
to do with an Iphhone, doesn't have nearly as good a screen, but has
much better battery life and sound system, figures to last me for two
years or more, and let's me keep the audio jack.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
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Hello Everyone,

Here is an interesting article that I thought you'd like to read,
the
URL to
which is located at the end of the text.

NOTE:  I edited out the 1 profane word that appears in the original
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Enjoy,

Mark

Taking the headphone jack off phones is user-hostile and stupid,
Have some
dignity
By Nilay Patel  on June 21, 2016

Another day, another rumor that Apple is going to ditch the
headphone jack
on the next iPhone in favor of sending out audio over Lightning. Or
another
phone beats Apple to the punch by ditching the headphone jack in
favor of
passing out audio over USB-C. What exciting times for phones!
We're so out
of ideas that actively making them shittier and more user-hostile
is the
only innovation left.

ditching the headphone jack on phones makes them worse

Look, I know you're going to tell me that the traditional TRS
headphone jack
is a billion years old and prone to failure and that life is about
progress
and whatever else you need to repeat deliriously into your bed of
old HTC
extUSB dongles and insane magnetic Palm adapters to sleep at night.
But just
face facts: ditching the headphone jack on phones makes them
worse, in
extremely obvious ways. Let's count them!

(Also, here is a list of reasons you might actually prefer Lightning
headphones, by my friend Vlad Savov, but let's be clear that my list
is the
superior one.)

1. Digital audio means DRM audio

Oh look, I won this argument in one shot. For years the
entertainment
industry has decried what they call the "analog loophole" of
headphone
jacks, and now we're making their dreams come true by closing it.

Winter is coming

Restricting audio output to a purely digital connection means
that music
publishers and streaming companies can start to insist on digital
copyright
enforcement mechanisms. We moved our video systems to HDMI and
got HDCP,
remember? Copyright enforcement technology never stops piracy and
always
hurts the people who most rely on legal fair use, but you can bet
the
music
industry is going to start cracking down on "unauthorized"
playback and
recording devices anyway. We deal with DRM when it comes to video
because we
generally don't rewatch and take TV shows and movies with us, but
you will
rue the day Apple decided to make the iPhone another 1mm thinner the
instant
you get a "playback device not supported" message. Winter is coming.

2. Wireless headphones and speakers are fine, not great

I am surrounded by wireless speaker systems. (I work at The
Verge, after
all.) And while they mostly work fine, sometimes they crackle out
and
fail.
It sucks to share a wireless speaker among multiple devices.
Bluetooth
headphones require me to charge yet another battery. You haven't
known
pain
until you've chosen to use Bluetooth audio in a car instead of an
aux
jack.

Bluetooth: next year it'll work great.

3. Dongles are stupid, especially when they require other dongles

Shut up, you say. All of your complaints will be handled by this
charming
$29 dongle that converts digital audio to a standard headphone jack!

Have some dignity

To which I will respond: here is a photo of Dieter Bohn and his
beloved
single-port MacBook, living his fullest #donglelife during our WWDC
liveblog:

Photo of macbook with a bunch of dongles

Everything is going to be great when you want to use your expensive
headphones and charge your phone at the same time. You are going
to love
everything about that situation. You are going to hold your 1mm
thinner
phone and sincerely believe that the small reduction in thickness is
definitely worth carrying multiple additional dongles.

Also, they're called [redacted] dongles. Let's not do this to
ourselves.
Have some dignity.

4. Ditching a deeply established standard will disproportionately
impact
accessibility

The traditional headphone jack is a standard for a reason - it
works. It
works so well that an entire ecosystem of other kinds of devices
has built
up around it, and millions of people have access to compatible
devices at
every conceivable price point. The headphone jack might be less good
on some
metrics than Lightning or USB-C audio, but it is spectacularly
better than
anything else in the world at being accessible, enabling, open, and
democratizing. A change that will cost every iPhone user at least
$29
extra
for a dongle (or more for new headphones) is not a change
designed to
benefit everyone. And you don't need to get rid of the headphone
jack to
make a phone waterproof; plenty of waterproof phones have shipped
with
headphone jacks already.

5. Making Android and iPhone headphones incompatible is so
incredibly
arrogant and stupid there's not even explanatory text under this one

6. No one is asking for this

Raise your hand if the thing you wanted most from your next phone
was
either
fewer ports or more dongles.

I didn't think so. You wanted better battery life, didn't you?
Everyone just
wants better battery life.

Original article at:
http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/6/21/11991302/iphone-no-headphon

e-jack-user-hostile-stupid

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